Great discussion. Thanks for all the replies, I'm glad I brought this up, and as I said before I didn't know that the concept had been a thing for a while. I had thought for someone that could nail the timing it would set you up for an earlier load on the gate shot. I also figured it wouldn't be a good idea for us long liners because it would be pretty hit and miss on success. Which my current gate already is, so the short gate would be even more difficult.