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JeffSurdej

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  1. After slalom and trick prelims 🇺🇸 5516, 🇫🇷 5354🇨🇦 5280, 🇬🇧 4860.
  2. @Cooper_Trelawney no placement stuff needed. Just put in scores into the formula for how they score team stuff and I used scores as if everyone skied what their iwsf ranking score is.
  3. I have ran the test tourney for Worlds based off ranking scores. USA could bring back the Gold! USA-8465.40 Canada-8331.74 France-7956.95 GBR-7729
  4. One of our jumps at Waters Edge doesn't pivot at the waterline and thus when we go from 5 foot to 6, I have to add flotation on the front and 10 gallons of water on the back to get full length/height. A pain in the butt during tournaments. I'm thinking of adding some sort of crank system or airbag system to make it easier to add and lessen weight on either end to accomplish this with less work and not having to swim flotation under the ramp. Has anyone seen some good systems for this out there?
  5. @swbca great observation and something that has always perplexed me. Go look at scorebooks in late 90’s and early 2,000. All events all divisions the scores are so far down from back then especially trick and jump. yet the pros have greatly advanced. I know numbers are way down but you would almost think only the best would still be around. Really makes you wonder.
  6. @Bruce_Butterfield I may have jumped the gun, its not official yet, you are correct. AWSA has 3 voting reps but their votes are worth 30 votes out of the 59.1 total votes.
  7. @The_MS Agreed, was thinking the same thing. A lot of clubs don't know how to use the OLR email function, its easy if you know how to do it but yes to automate this based on who is entered would be a nice feature
  8. @Golfguy pending risk management and board approval at end of Jan meetings, I would suggest contacting your voting reps to assure they are voting to remove this proposal.
  9. @Dirt maybe we’ll figure them out. They already solved the background check. what are ALL the mandates? Are there any others besides Safesport?
  10. Yes it is true that pending board approval in Jan that background checks will not be mandated unless officiating nationals or international level event. For those of you bashing the HELL out of USAWS you need to recognize how hard they fought to NOT make this happen in the first place and continued to fight after it was mandated to find a way to make it work so it didn't effect us negatively. Some of you think they don't care or that they sit back and do nothing or that they actually came up with the idea of SS and background checks for officials. Go sit in their shoes. Go deal with insurance companies who wont insure you without SS, parents mandating something be done, and all the BS. Got news for you, if AWSA breaks away from USAWS or USAWS breaks away from USOPC, were still gonna have to SS at some point I can almost guarantee it. I know it sucks but if its helps make sure our sport is around for decades b/c we are not being negligent and have insurance coverage then go online for 3 freaking hours. Hell you all spend 3 hours a day adjusting your fins settings. Love, ex-president looking for a panda :) Sorry, just tired of the negativity, lets just go ski people!
  11. @markn @jayski I didn't mean to imply that the liability would shift to the individual. I don't think that's the case at all.
  12. @dbressel Yes I would say for sure it would take some responsibility off the organization, that's the whole point, if we were doing nothing to prevent abuse we would be more liable, no different than taking measures to make sure our boats are safe etc.
  13. @jayski it definitely decreases the possibility b/c we as an NGB have to protect our members and do the right thing. If we are taking the action to help prevent incidences we are way less likely to be negligent in a lawsuit. Same reason we have MVR now for drivers and coaching classes, and insurance at events.
  14. I see both sides, I personally am not a fan of mandating this across the board, but I also understand the reasoning as one incident could shut down the organization for good. I would hate to have to make 30 guest members who come out for a ski for fun to learn about the sport go through SS. So maybe the real problem is that skiers can ski at worlds as guest members, but that's an IWWF thing, they mandate that a federation can not force skiers coming to ski worlds buy the membership. I'd be curious how many here at worlds have never competed in a US tourney and thus actually used the guest membership but I get the point, anyone can violate safesport even for 1 day.
  15. @LeonL All active members will have to do the training – foreign or not. If they are a “guest member” – e.g. like we did with some foreign skiers for Worlds who are only skiing that one event b/c we need them to be members for the insurance that is sanctioned by USA-WSWS like World’s were then no. Guest members no since they are only participating for a day or two – all active members yes.
  16. @LeonL I did not know that to be true so I am verifying b/c that does not seem fair.
  17. over hits for 38's ran in WS prelims and we are not even into series 1
  18. @Jody_Seal wow I'm behind on this discussion, couple quick comments 1) I agree 100% that safesport should only be for coaches, I can tell you that part of my resignation had to do with not wanted to deal with this mandate. This is not going to be pretty, cant wait to get 1200 NCWSA kids to take this course 2) I think the really debate is not starting a new organization but whether AWSA is better off on its own vs under the USAWS and IWSF umbrella. If there is a move to make I think that's it, if a new organization starts we are just splitting our resources and members which are limited as it is. Almost every comment/suggestion made here I can relate back to USAWS and/or IWSF 3) I don't want to debate L10 b/c its over, I know it failed, and I pushed to end it just as much as I was the reason it started but I always find it hypocritcal when someone says its not fair that a 6500 tricker had to trick against 10,000 yet its ok for a 1000 tricker to trick against 10,000 or same could be said for jump, its ok for 75 feet vs 180 but not 190 vs 220? L10 was about competition actually but like I said its over, agree to disagree. Love the conversation overall, hope to be able to keep up with it.
  19. If skiers ski average, canada 8142, USA 8088, FRA 7984. Should be close one
  20. @Jody_Seal I know you've never been my biggest fan, and that's fine. L10 was not crap, Anna Gay winning Masters and then tricking G3 at Nationals, Nate Smith winning M2 Slalom rankings, now that's crap. L10 had good intentions but was never implemented to work like it should. Doesn't matter, L10 is not the reason we are where we are. And yeah maybe the towboat decision was not the right call, although maybe Mastercraft would only have half the promo guys if we made that move, so what would be the gain, but I can promise you that we would be in this 3 event boat situation regardless of giving manufacturers more pulls at Nationals. Jody, I have asked you this before with no response, tell me, what 5 things would you do if you were president tmrw, 5 specific things, lets help Lyman do better and you cant use broad goals like "get on public waters" or stop the elitest mentally, give me 5 specific things you would do in this new organization.
  21. @Jody_Seal it is tempting, I'll be honest, but I don't think the grass is any greener on the other side. Any new organization will be like a SHIBU INU pump and dump. It wont last, eventually most of the regulations we are seeing will come into play if a new organization has any success. And the things holding back waterskiing from growing, and I mean really growing to a level of other sports, are not safe sport, not government, not your board....it is cost and access, plain and simple. You cant fix those things on scale without billions of dollars. Our sport is what it is, expensive, elitest, and up against wake surfing and wakeboarding. Wakeboard (now wakesurf) is the #1 reason our sport changed. WE DIDNT GET OFF PUBLIC WATERS, PUBLIC WATERS STARTED WAKEBOARDING INSTEAD OF SKIING. We lost our share of watersports enthusiast b/c a better, easier, and more fun avenue arrived for water sport enthusiast, which is fine, but we told them to F off. USA snowski didn't tell snowboarders to pound sand, they incorporated them and grew together, we told wakeboard to get lost, and WWA took the ropes and now the 3 boat manufacturers don't even relate 97% of their boat sales to USA water ski and wakeboard, epic fail we will never recoup from. And let me say I was one of them that said go pound sand. USAWS/AWSA is not the main problem folks, stop blaming people. Looking forward to not being president so I can earn some Pandas :)
  22. Men’s Slalom The cut for finals will be over/under 2 @ 41 # of guys to run 39 in prelims over/under 18 Top prelim score over/under 4 @ 41 Will there be a runoff in the prelims: Yes -150, No +125 Women’s Slalom # of girls to run 39 in prelims over/under 2 # of girls to run 38 in prelims over/under 6 The cut will be over/under 4 @ 38 Top Prelim Score Over/Under 1 @ 41 Will there be a runoff in the prelims: Yes -130, No +125 Men’s Trick # of guys to run over 11,000 in prelims Over/Under 4 The cut will be over/under 10,000 Will anyone trick over 12,000 in prelims Yes +150, No -175 Women’s Trick # of girls to run over 10,000 in prelims Over/Under 2 The cut will be over/under 8,000 Men’s Jump # of guys to jump over 200 in prelims Over/Under 15 The cut will be over/under 205 Will anyone jump over 230 in prelims Yes -150, No +125 Women’s Jump # of girls to jump over 170 in prelims Over/Under 4 The cut will be over/under 155 General Bets Will all top seeds make the finals YES-300 NO +200
  23. I don't think the same person wins all the time? @Horton Hey how do I get rid of that AWSA President under my name on here?
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