PurdueSkier

Thanks for the comments. Yes I am measuring from the base of the boot at the plate. I guess my question may fit better in the boot position thread @Horton started. My real question how does my actual foot location compare when measuring the old boot at the stitch compared to the new boot at the base? I think I have it close and will just go ski. Just curious if others found they needed to adjust forward or back to match the old bindings.

Has anyone gone from a 2021 or older vapor boot to the new 2022 vapor boot? My old front boot finally ripped and I replaced it with a new 2022. However the heel of the boot is different and I believe is impacting my measurements. I would like it exactly where my old one was but not sure where to measure from or how to convert from the old to new. Any experience?

I have had 3 or 4 different S2s and loved them. Still have one as a backup. Wasn't until I got a C85 that I found something I liked better. S2 is a great ski. I had one of the 67.5 but at 34 mph it was just too big. The 66.5 was a better ski and size for me

Not sure your situation but I mounted a 120v winch from harbor freight to the floor in the back of my garage. I just hook straps to the back of the trailer.It works great to pull the boat into a tight spot.

@ALPJr I had a 94 echelon closed bow. Mine had the 454 which added a lot of power but also a lot of weight. The boat actually tracked really well. It had a pretty flat hull so it was a rough ride in chop. The slalom wake was very weight sensitive. With minimal gas and the back seat out it skied pretty well. The wake was small but it was very hard. If you hit it wrong it felt like hitting a curb. Too many people or gas and it got worse quickly.

I have a 2010 response LXI. I love my boat. It has ZO and an open bow which were musts for my family. Open bow is usable for adults and kids when out cruising. It certainly has a bigger slalom wake than a 196, 200, or a new nautique but I think it is comparable to an MC 197. I slalom from 22 off to 38 off at 34 mph and think it's a great wake. I have a wedge and with it down and a couple adults in the boat I can surf without the rope, no other ballast. The more weight the better it gets. Without some serious weight I don't think you could do much other than just ride. I am not sure it would have enough push for any real tricks. I have never tried to really weight it down. Overall it's a great all around boat.

If you are willing to look for awhile you can find low hour older boats that could work really well for you. I have a 2010 open bow Response LXI that I love. It has more free board than other brands and models, it has a rear storage locker, some storage in the sides, and we actually use the open bow even for adults. It skis really well and has a wedge so you can wakeboard and surf. They had a similar design in the TXI up until 2017 when the changed hulls.

@cacman maybe the universe is just telling you not to wear anything skin tight and shiny!

There is not a club at Mirage. It is a private site. They used to host INT tournaments there but not sure that INT even exists anymore. They do have a course on the lake but never see it used.

I actually have a 2012 and a 2014 66.5" S2 that I would sell without bindings. Just got a new ski but loved the S2. PM if interested.

I just picked these up today but dont know anything about them. I am guessing 50s but don't really know. I think they have either been refinished at some point or the original graphics wore off. It looks like the might have had some red on the tips and tails. Anyone have any idea what they might be or the age?

I am not an expert but throw in my observation....it looks like as you come into the apex your hips remain outbound/open. As you come around the buoy you are rotating your shoulders but much slower to rotate your hips. I know some people ski with more open hips but on your onside it looks more like you are sliding your hips around the buoy and not turning. I think this is causing a slow rotation of the ski, causing slack, causing you to fall back on the rope and ski......or your pull out for the gates was all wrong.

I agree with what @BraceMaker said. I used to have a 94 echelon with a 454. It was set up with dual batteries when I got it and still struggled sometimes. I replaced the starter with a high torque marine starter and it was night and day difference. I went back to a single battery after that and never had an issue.

@Horton and @Wish I couldn't agree more about the S2. @LOTW I had 2012 67.5, liked it but it was too big. I sold it and got a 2012 66.5. That ski was amazing, bought another used one for a backup. Then upgraded to the 2014 66.5 and it was even better. I am still skiing on that ski but it is finally time to give it up and I now have a new ski on order for the spring. I still have a 2012 I would sell you.