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Mortyski

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  1. @chipkimball Great comments for @Bionaraq I'm so pleased you are on the Whisper Fin with the two wings! I started that thread after getting advice from the guru Jay @SkiJay
  2. Guys you might want to do a search for "Whisper Fin for Big Guys" on this forum...there is lots of good information in that thread including photos and instructions. @SkiJay definitely knows his stuff
  3. @Dacon62 good to know...thanks for clarifying that for me
  4. Ya @SkiJay definitely knows his stuff. It’s probably a little early to ask but has anyone tried the WF pro at 32 mph? I’m in the 32 mph club now.
  5. @jimbrake I totally get what you mean. The ROC 550's delaminated a lot. The ST 650 which was the slalom ski held together for some reason but the 550's were not durable. I used to race slalom on 207 ST 650's. I had 215 ROC 550's for GS. Real men skied on the 215's. Both were team skis with black bases not the blue bases of the rack skis. Those were the days. I'm an old guy. I'd like to race GS today on the 550's and compare my time to the Masters GS ski from Rossy to see the difference. I'm sure it would be huge. I think @SkiJay is helping the sport a lot. I like his innovation and out of the box thinking. I've met Jay, he is a humble, helpful man who knows his stuff. Jay has a huge following in Canada on his products so @Drago's comment surprised me.
  6. @Drago Why are you so negative on fin advancements?
  7. Congratulations @SkiJay. This new fin looks exciting. It’s hard to think about waterskiing when there is snow on the lake but I can’t wait to try this new version. I love engineering and how fit for purpose engineering design improves sport performances. Jay is guru and an amazing engineer for sure since he thinks outside of the box and designs things that just work better. Everyone: there is a very complete and comprehensive description of the Whisper Fin Pro on Jay’s website. Go have a look. https://finwhispering.com
  8. @chipkimball That is awesome to hear. I just got my Whisper Fin too. Did you have a look at the WhisperFin for Big Guys thread on BOS. @SkiJay was kind enough to help us big guys enjoy the sport even more by suggesting an amazing set up with two wings. You're a bit bigger than I am...actually not that much...and I love the two wing set up that @SkiJay suggested.
  9. @escmanaze reach out to @SkiJay on his website https://finwhispering.com/contact/ What I like about @SkiJay is he is an engineer like the two Adams at Denali. Jay literally wrote the book on fin tuning so he knows his stuff. I agree that it's a shame he's not on the site anymore as the active group here can learn things. You're never too old to learn....
  10. @C5Quest that's awesome, I know he has lots of customers so when he gets back to you he's working hard to keep up.
  11. @RGilmore thanks for the photo....it reminds me of the Hexcel snow skis I once had. Hexcel advertised their snow skis by bending them in a loop without breaking them. I skied on the 210 cm slalom snow skis for a couple of years and ended up breaking them when they fell off the car in the ski rack onto the road at 60 mph. Memo to self after that...check your friend's ski rack to make sure it's securely fastened!
  12. @C5Quest It's super easy to get a hold of @SkiJay on his website. https://finwhispering.com/contact/ He's got tons of knowledge as you know and he is very good at returning e-mails. I've learned a lot from him and it's well worth the effort to make contact with Jay.
  13. Update: a fully grown friend of mine has had some time on his 71 inch senate with the Whisper Fin. He maintains the ski turns faster. Hallelujah, this is exactly what we are looking for. Take a big ski that just by its size will not turn as fast as the same ski in a smaller size....enjoy the starting of the larger ski...keep the glide of the larger ski and put on a Whisper Fin so the ski turns much faster. We are no longer handicapped by the big ski. I know from my past owning 69 and 71 inch versions of the same ski that the 71 turned like a school bus compared to the 69. Thanks @SkiJay
  14. @Justin_C I haven't tried a WF yet, we haven't even started skiing yet as my ski and boat are in the USA and I am in Canada. I will tell you my son loves his WF and I know @SkiJay has a really strong following at Predator Bay where the serious skiers in the Calgary area all hang out. Predator Bay has hosted the World Championships and pro tours in the past so it's a very credible location.
  15. @chipkimball...did you set up the two wings on the Whisper fin?
  16. @vegaskid I answered your questions on a different thread that you should also read. I got a lot of information from @SkiJay on the two wing set up and wrote quite a lot of details on that thread.
  17. @vegaskid I saw your post on the 71 inch Lithium Senate thread....yes 250# is fine for the 71 inch Lithium Senate....you might want to have a read on this thread too since I firmly believe the Whisper Fin will improve the turn ability of any ski and a 71 inch ski is quite long. I have owned the 71 inch HO Triumph in the past as well and couldn't get it to turn as quickly as the 69 inch Triumph that I also owned. The Whisper Fin will likely allow us to ski on the longer skis and turn like the shorter ski. Also there is a lot of detail here on the two wing set up you were asking about.
  18. Haven’t made a turn. I can’t get into the USA where my boat and ski are :(
  19. Just an update for everyone. I went back to Jay again on some more big guy questions….I thought everyone reading this thread would like to see this Q&A. I think Jay’s explanation makes a lot of sense. I know I understand better what is going on now. My questions with a little background to Jay was: A buddy of mine is now fully figured at about 280 lbs. He's a full and paid up member of the big guy club, I think he's a past president. He, like a lot of big guys has a 71-inch Radar lithium senate. I've seen him ski off the dock into deep 35 and brain fart...as far as I could tell his technique was much deeper than his score. He was slightly lighter when I saw him ski probably about 240-250 lbs and he was skiing on a 69-inch Radar Senate. He had only one wing on his fin. He's asking me about the turnability of the Whisperfin on a big ski. Do you think he will need the 2-fin set up? Do you set the fin differently for big skis that you want the most turn ability out of the ski since the ski is longer to begin with and long skis don’t turn as fast as shorter skis with everything else the same? Do you have a lot of big guys using your fin? My friend is a “fin tweaker”, and a passionate water skier. He just wants some more background on what to expect Jay’s response by e-mail to me was: There's no absolute answer to your questions because not all skiers ride their skis the same. But I definitely have a lot of big skiers using the WhisperFin because it makes any ski of any size turn easier, regardless of skier weight. Big skiers tend to overwhelm the narrow, unsupportive tail of the ski, driving it deep into the water. This causes the tip to ride high making tip-engagement difficult. Without proper tip-engagement, the ski will always be difficult to turn. Moving the bindings all the way forward moves the skier's weight forward over the widest, most supportive part of the ski, improving tip-attitude and tip engagement. But the further forward we move, the longer the distance is from the bindings back to the tail, giving the tail more leverage against sliding (smearing). When the tail won't slide enough, the ski turns like a school bus. Here's where the WhisperFin can help. To get the ski to smear nice tight radius turns with the bindings forward, the fin needs to be smaller. But reducing the size of a standard fin reduce acceleration. The WhisperFin's small surface area frees up the tail's ability to smear without losing any power to accelerate due to its patented turbulators. If moving the bindings all the way forward still isn't enough to get the ski to ride with a low enough tip attitude, then adding a second wing to the fin can help level out the ski even more. When using two wings, the front wing should be parallel to the ski and you'll need to reduce the angle of the back wing too. Normally, a double wing setup adds enough drag that both wings should be run as close to 0° as possible. If more drag is needed to check speed into turns, then add a little angle to the back wing. Two standard wings usually provide enough support, but you can experiment with the sizes of your wings to optimize the ski's performance. The front wing can be a little ventral. The back wing can be a large Goode wing. Or in extreme cases, both wings can be large Goode wings.
  20. @jhughes it looks like @MarcusBrown changed the link it now works
  21. Hi @MarcusBrown I don’t think your website link works...it doesn’t work on an iPad in Canada for sure
  22. @UWSkier I haven't tried the Whisper Fin yet but it will be quite a bit further forward than anything else I have ever used so hopefully lack of smear is not an issue.
  23. @Bruce_Butterfield thanks for making contact. I'm that engineer guy from Canada that knows @A_B who was working on the load cell/GPS water ski evaluator... Lisa 2 We communicated a couple of times by e-mail. Where my head is take my 71 inch lithium for early season training, mount the Whisper fin and the second wing as you slow the boat down and get back in the course. When you are back up to speed maybe take off the second fin and make the back wing a little more angle. I don't think I want to try 3 wings I was just curious to see if anyone has tried that. @UWSkier I weigh about the same as you...maybe a bit more....I'm solid with a gut....I know the picture is the wrong sport but you get the idea See my note above for early season training, what I find is when I slow down the boat I used to sink especially on a 69. Our season is so short in Canada that by the time things are back to normal in the course the season is over.
  24. @Horton Do you know if anyone has tried three wings? One is good two is better, so is three even better still kind of thinking. Put all three wings on horizontal with minimum drag and get all the lift in the tail. It’s the engineer in me asking.
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