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@skinut For boat guides go with the Overtons inflatable boat guides. I know they are about 20.00 each but they will last FOREVER. I have some on our course that have been in the water for at least ten years. They will last much longer than anything else and over time will be cheaper also. I know it is tough to bite the bullet the first time, but if on a private site where they are not subjected to the weekend walley, they are the best.

What Bruce said. It won't be long before someone will tell you that you have to be on 90's. First time ride over and up to 60 feet can easily be done on 78 inch skis. Most of the first time ride over at college tournaments are still judgment impaired from Saturday night. Again listen to Bruce. He is a smart man.

Stay with the exo. My son rode the exo for the last three years. He felt like he had too many maintenance problems with the clips and rails. After nationals he started to ride with the apex. Two months later he damaged almost every ligament in his ankle. He got lean locked out of the ball and when he hit the wake the classic one foot released and one did not. The whole bungee thing is a bad accident waiting to happen. Do your home work and see how many people have been hurt with bungee bindings. No system is one hundred Percent safe and most high end require some maintenance. Six months later and several thousands of dollars in medical and rehab bills, ( with medical coverage. Awsa covergae has failed to pay any of the claim yet) ( that's a whole different rant) he is starting to be able to walk up and down stairs normal and get back on the water. I know it could have been much worse. Thank God it was not a Achilles. He did put his exo back on the ski for his first set back on the water last weekend. Good luck.

He maybe getting a start for a April 1st release

@BraceMaker. Based on location and the type of soil and ave summer temp, my guess is that the loss rate is much closer to 3 to 4 inches per week. The amount of use is also a huge factor. When we host a all day long tournament in mid July, we will lose a half inch in a single day. Wind mills and water ski lakes are two items that should not coexist in the same area. LOL

@skidawg I think that MattP is still to young to understand that.

@Horton‌ We test our well output by how long it takes to fill a 55 gal drum. I know that at 900 gal per min. that is only seconds, but I bet you can get close with a stop watch. Never hurts to have a ballpark number. We test ours ever year to make sure that the pump is still at peak performance and to see if we have issues with water supply.

@guitarcarr Flordia is a pretty big state. You will get better feedback if you limit it to a city or area.

@horton the time was good but we won't talk about the boat path

Looks to me like the internet and practice are the same thing. No that does not count. Pay your entry fee and support your local tournament site and see what you can do

I was looking forward to the web cast you hinted at with your new toy. It looked like you had some cool ideas. There is no way that I could leave my site while a HUGE event is going on.

@Chef23 I am sure that someone will get more of the details right, but just off the top of my head. The rope length was 100 feet I think. The length of the ramp out of water was several feet longer. That reduced the incline angle. I am not sure about the the height. It may have been less than 6 maybe 5 9. The boat speed was increased but I don't remember the speed 45??? maybe. The guys who did it said that they did not need to cut as late and the decrease in the incline angle was less impact. I think the jump was much more open than what we have now. Again, not sure on all the deatils but that is a start. The year they did it at nationals in Bakersfield was pretty awesome. I think that was early 2000's maybe 2001

Pretty sure that several of the young guns would like to. Zach, Storm, Tim,.......

@OB That's cold.

@ozski Sorry but I disagree. Nick Lang and Taylor Garcia both go 55 plus meters at 51KPH and are most likely under 68 kg. It is all in how you work the system and how you set it up. WOW look at us. Talking about jump on BOS. Taylor has been close to 60 m (59.4) but at 54 kph. A pretty good poke.

@ozski A lean jumper who knows how to set up ZO does not have a problem with it or prefer PP. The problem is that too many skiers don't understand ZO for jump and try to apply the PP thinking. It does not work. First thing that most need to do is REDUCE the letter. Unfortunatly, many drivers, even at class L and R also don't understand the system. Not many drivers have the chance of driving practice for someone going over 180 feet. Just like slalom driving, practice make perfect. OK go ahead and flag it off topic. LOL fyi ZO still has a switch for jump. Same as PP

At 6.1 meters, I would not waste my time putting buoys out. Just drive between the outer most boat guide and the turn ball. (11.5 meters) This is also known as a mini course. I have found that by starting with turn balls about 8-10 feet inside the buoys it offers enough of a challange to the skier that they have to work but also have enough success that they stay motivated. Gradually move the buoys out to keep it a challange. Once they are within about 6 feet, time to go to the big course. We use a single cider block as a anchor.

Another case of the one percenters. LOL

I think on of the best stories is Tom Brantley. He is ranked 13th in OM. He skies most of the time in open water with NO course. He does spend some time each year with Alan Hendrick in Dallas for a few weeks each year. Pretty impressive. Good open water skiers can adjust to a course pretty quickly if the have proper technique. I have seen guys run thru -32 off at 36 mph in less than a year on a course. They were very good open water skiers before getting into teh course.

@horton my guess is that it is a 2010 model 200. That pice is about right depending on options.

@MS Some of the ones that have been mentioned here have been on the market a long time. A 09 has been listed for 9 months and a 08 has been listed for almost a full year. If something is for sale for that length of time, the first thing I think, is that the price is too high.

@liquid d & MAD11 I am currently a seller (09) and a buyer (new) in the market. That being said, I feel like the asking price of the 2002/2009 nautiques is out of line. Time will tell on how long they are for sale and what they finally sell for. You can list it for what ever you want. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Kind of like the MSRP that are on the new boats. They can list 85,000 but if they sell for far less than that. What is the point. People are listing ten year old boats for what they should have paid for them new.

Let's wait and see how long and for how much these boats sell for. It looks like most of them are way over priced. Some of them are priced more than what you could buy them new for.

Kind of reinforces a statement that I have seen here before that drew some criticism. "You are only as good as your last tournament pass"