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CORRECTION to my previous post........ I meant to say "downcourse" instead of "upcourse" in the following statements like this one...... Then the line is cut to 28off, that means he is skiing with a 47 foot rope! (and he is 6 ft closer to the boat than at 22off and further upcourse at turn in ) Sorry for any confusion! Here's the video of Regina's 3@41off world record. Freeze frame right when she initiates her turn in. This can be identified by the outward spray from her ski! Here's Rossi at Okee a few years back. Here's Todd Ristocelli Here's Chad from a few years back Here's Dave Miller at 39off in the Big Dawg National Finals. I've been using this gate since 2005. I brought this gate shot up on the different forums over 2 1/2 years ago, but almost everyone at that time had the feeling that "later was better" in an attempt to achieve more angle/width at the gates as the line shortens. This gate works at all line legnths and is very low load and efficient!

There are some major problems with the skier turning in for the gates when the nose of the boat is entering the gates and the skier is pulling out to the same width at every line length! Sure at every turn in,...the boat is in the EXACT SAME PLACE,...the skier is not!!!! If a skier is starting at 22off that means he is skiing with a 53 foot rope! Then the line is cut to 28off, that means he is skiing with a 47 foot rope! (and he is 6 ft closer to the boat than at 22off and further upcourse at turn in ) Then the line is cut to 32off, that means he is skiing with a 43 foot rope! (and he is 10feet closer to the boat than at 22off and further upcourse at turn in) Then the line is cut to 35off, that means he is skiing with a 40 foot rope! (and he is 13 feet closer to the boat than at 22off and further upcourse at turn in) Then the line is cut to 38off, that means he is skiing with a 37 foot rope! (and he is 16 feet closer to the boat than at 22off, and further upcourse at turn in) So even though the boat is in the EXACT SAME PLACE the skier IS NOT! At every line shortening the skier is turning in later and later and later,.....into more and more and more angle!!!! This is main problem with using the boat at the 55's as your turn in point!!! This is what @razorskier1 was doing!!!! INSANE!!!! Hope this helps!

@gregy Honestly,...I have never have looked at the 2,4,6, buoy line either. I have pullout point for my 2 hand gate which is always consistant (right 55 at the nose of the boat) and my pullout point for the 1 hand gate (left 55 is near the engine cover). I then have my turn in point (1 ball is just past the left gate buoy approx.).

Thanks for posting the pics @razorskier1. In these pics, most of these skiers already have their skis turning in slightly for their gates,...so there turn in intitiation points were well before when these photos were taken. If you notice were the water is first being diplaced outward away from the boat is a clue to where they started their initiation for their turn in for their gates.

Here are a few pullout points that will add more consistency to you skiing,...that I learned from Schnitz! Pullout points........ 1) stand just outside the whitewash/foam 2) pullout when the nose of the boat is touching the right hand gate buoy (slightly before or later) (Optional) quit pulling out when the 3 ball crosses over the right hand gate (or slightly later) 4) check the 2,4,6 buoy line for width (slightly wider, inline, or narrower) 5) intiate your turn in when the 1 ball is just before crossing over the left gate buoy (slightly earlier or later)

Hey @razorskier1, Great topic! I have some gate shot photos that I would like to post but I am having a hard time getting up. My "attach a file" button isn't working! Thanks!! Also,.. I think that the body position that you are achieving in the course is critical to making this gate shot really work well for ya! You may want to talk about that also! Oh by the way,...won't be too long now and you will be spending most of the day cutting a hole in the ice big enough for your boat, let alone for the course!!! You guys are ANIMALS in MN!!! lol

Thanks guys!!! I appreciate the feedback! I thought that these 2 articles were pretty good. http://waterskimag.com/features/2012/06/12/how-to-maximize-your-water-ski-stance/ Backward movement Moving the bindings back on a ski can yield more outbound speed after your transition off the second wake because the wider fore body of the ski doesn’t engage into the turn as easily or quite as early. The speed created here allows the ski to carry out to the apex more effectively, and actually, the tip stays down better when the ski carries more speed into and through the turn. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://waterskimag.com/features/2012/07/12/position-your-arms-for-effortless-water-skiing/ Change your edge, not your position As you transition from your cutting edge to your turning edge, it’s crucial to keep a low anchor point close to your body. Instead of rocking forward through the edge change in an attempt to “prepare” for the turn, keep your handle close to your hips as you swing into your turning edge. It may feel like your weight is farther back as you near the turn, but by keeping your handle position consistent, you will continue to travel on a longer outward path and arrive at the buoy with more width.

I ski with Harald and that video was taken back in the perfect pass days. In this video,..Harald had his ski fully turned in for the gates when the 1 ball was splitting the gate buoys which is very very early. With ZO, Harald was forced to widen up his gate pullout a bit and turn in a bit later also for the gates than what you see in this video. Although his gate shot has changed a bit, ....his skiing style has not. This type of skiing is what Schnitz calls "nothingness skiing" because the skier does nothing,...no excessive leaning, dropping a hip, pulling. You won't see any excessive counter rotation because that would tend to turn the ski into to much angle. Actually Harald is attempting NOT TO LEAN as he finishes the turn. As Harald finishes his turn all he attempts to do is to point his ski at the cross course target (approx. 20 feet before the next buoy), engage his core, Lock in, and go!!! This style of skiing is very core intensive and takes great handle control. Because Harald is skiing a very narrow/late/slower path cross course, he is forced to stay on the handle longer with both hands to maintain good outbound direction, width, and speed. Harald's arms are "locked" in a straight position, and his elbows are "locked to his vest". -abs flexed/core engaged (as though someone is going to punch him in the stomach) -chest out (whenever Harald gets late he never leans, he only sticks his chest out more) -stand tall -arms straight (locked and flexed straight) -elbows locked to the vest -hips up -handle in the pocket -comfortable lean Harald's the Austrian Slalom record holder 1.5 @ 41off at 36mph / 2.5 @ 41off at 34mph ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a video of Harald's first set on the 66" MR ski. He was skiing on the 68" inch prior. The 66" MR is almost identical to the 9900sl goode reg., but the MR has inserts. The 68" MR is almost identical to the Fischer (with inserts). The MR skis are made in Austria by Harald's brother Manfred (M) and fellow skier Robert ®. Robert has won the world cable slalom on the MR. For more info on the MR ski call Harald at 561-346-9877 Here's me attempting to ski Harald's gate shot, having the ski fully turned in when the 1 ball spitting the gate buoys which is very difficult to do. My usual gates were a bit wider, 1 ball is just past the left gate buoy. (Harald's driving)

@ShaneH wrote – “The N1 has gotten faster and faster feeling as my ski partner has moved his bindings back” @Horton wrote – “ Try going back to stock on the fin and move the bindings back.” @Scotchipman wrote – “I'm open for suggestions on how to increase the speed but not sure I can go back any farther on my boots” How can moving the bindings back and displacing more weight on the back of the ski make the ski go faster? Thanks!

Well said @Rich!!! @Rich wrote "All the video posted in this thread show one very common thing. All the skiers are stacked/ hips up. The skiers that ski back still keep the core completly engaged/ hips up though they ski a bit more on the back foot than the front foot. So it appears that the important thing is engaement of the core/hips up / Handle close to the body / resist the boat off the 2nd wake as it tries to rotate your body towards it (counter rotation) Start the turn at the white water and finish at the white water. Be as efficient as possible doing all of this." Since your center of mass/center of gravity is located just below your belly button,...these skiers are also leading well with their center of mass/center of gravity by having their... - hips up/hips connected to the handle/handle in the pocket/low anchor point/power triangle -elbows to the vest -chest out -arms Totally straight -shoulders back -standing tall With this group of skiers,..the further up and forward that they have their hips, the greater that their upper body can lean away. This hips forward and upper body lean away is what is causing their weight to be naturally displaced slightly more on their back foot. They ARE NOT PRESSING DOWN ON THEIR BACK FOOT. @Rich you are very accurate in saying that this style of skiing is very core intensive and it is a must to keep your core engaged almost every second in the course. Of course, all styles of skiing would benefit from having a strong core. By having the core engaged out to the turn buoy this style of skiing uses centrifugal force to swing the skier in and out of the turn quickly. Watch Aprils video again how she reaches high and behind the pylon coming into her offside 1,3,5 and slightly more forward on her 2,4,6, and how she utilizes the centrifugal forces to swing her through her turns quickly and smoothly. She is not counter rotating much either.

I don't think that @Tup style looks anything like Win Decrees, although Win is a great skier (and a super nice guy!). That would be like suggesting that Chris Parrish should ski like Terry Winter. Here's a Beautiful Gal that rides further back on her ski also! (skiing starts at 1:46 in the video) Here's another skier who skis the "stay back style" also............. And who could forget this classic Rossi video......(what's he doing on his pullout???...... Here's April......does she ever use the front of her ski?!?!?).....Watch her offside reach!!!..... :-)