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haha. Thanks Steve. To kind. See you soon I think.

I love how much attention your getting on here Steve from the 15-39 off in 3 years. Awesome. Anyway back on topic. If z box is set up right (x factor cranked) it is difficult to tell. At least in my opinion. I mean look at Steve he ski's his PPSG zbox at home and skis really well. Then goes to tourney and slays it there too. Just buy a boat, get cruise and ski a ton. I guess you are always better off to train behind what you will ski behind in a tourney but whatever there is no replacement for time on water. Ask Steve. It's funny no one talked about how much Steve ski's or skied in order to accomplish the 15-39 in 3 years. Ummm correct me if I am wrong here Steve...But EVERY DAY 2x a day making a totally of 4-6 sets a day or more. Cheers!

I would just like to point out on the point of BigDawg skiers having "REAL" jobs. Don't fool your selves. Most of these guys either work in the ski industry anyway and can ski anytime or they have money printers (ie. business owners, CEO's etc.) in there basements which allows them to ski anytime anywhere. To ski at 39 or shorter consistently it takes a little more then just "skiing when you have time". I am with Marcus a little here. Join up, bump the boat speed up to 36 and have at it. Let the over 35 guys pay a 200 dollar entry fee too, haha sweeten the pot for everyone. I seen Dave Miller run 39 @ 36 mph. They can all do it, more bang for your buck at tourny's. Just saying. Who knows, let's just make sure the elite guys are getting paid to show case the sport at a high level and may we continue to grow the sport how ever we can. Not really on any side because I don't compete in either of these to groupings and really know the implications just wanted to clarify. Cheers!

Been using HO 41 tail. Holding up nicely. Just going to be trying on some Radar Ergo's they are Amara Palm. I will report back once I have a chance to put some set's on them. I was a little nervous on longevity but I get gloves at cost so I figure I better try them out.

@thebighead. Other names for Albert Dyck Park. Molson, & Walmsley Lake. Cheers!

Some insight to all my fellow BOS brothern and sistern. Facts: -FVWSC is currently being threatened by a cable park proposal. -We need all the support we can please send letters as Corey has asked. -Join our fanpage. www.facebook.com/savethefvwsc -Proposal has not gone past the point of an idea and official proposals haven't even began. -The land was donated to the city by the Dyck family. -95% chance the city will turn down the idea and won't even go to proposal stage because the land was donated on the basis that it be used for all citizens enjoyment not as a grounds for private business to run a for profit organization. -The site is not optimal for cable park use. Many other things play into this ie. location, changing water levels, cost of upgrades to facility to make city happy, to long of cable runs, not suited for beginners, etc. -Large percentage of cable park users don't have a car or license (based on research from other cable park owners/operators. This site is no where near a bus route. -FVWSC is a non-profit organization. -Anyone can join FVWSC, many membership options are available to meet everyone's budget. -Towed water sports aren't cheap. -Public nights available July and August. $30 a set (6 pass in the course or 20 mins of ride time). -Cable parks north of Central & Southern California, Florida & Texas don't make money. -Lakes don't freeze here so it can't be utilized as a snowboard park in the winter. -Based on lake specs and proposed cable park set up this would not be making this site more inclusive but exclusive to wakeboarders/wake skiers only. No way to slalom (who would want to anyway), no disabled access, no barefoot, no ski jumping, very difficult to learn on, no boom. etc. -No other private ski site with in 1000KM (600 miles) in Canada. -Anyone can drop in anytime just contact a club member. All we ask is that after 3 visits you join as a casual member ($200 bucks for the year) -FVWSC is not against cable parks we just feel that they should go build a site somewhere else. Opinion: -If cable was installed talk of 2 hr ride pass to be $30ish dollars. Perceived value is higher because you are able to ride for 2 hrs. Actual ride time based on July & August (peek season) would be similar to 20-30 mins. actual ride time it just is spread out over 2 hrs. based on 30-40 people at the park and 6-9 max ride capacity etc. Everyone seems to always be so focused on the cost and making it cheaper blah, blah, blah. I am all for growing the sport that's why we have public days and organizations like INT League. Look at other options like a boat share program, etc. If you look at the cost of boat ownership and then look at the cost of beginning a club member. I could ski at the club for 20 years before ever paying off what it would cost me to even own a used boat. So as far as affordability goes people need to give there head a shake. Everything costs money, something more then others. Life is full of choices, you are free to make yours. I have made mine and I choose to ski/barefoot. I don't feel a 3-event site should be closed down just so someone can "try" to make money and "appeal" to a larger audience. There is a council meeting scheduled for Feb 21 at 430 pm at Abbotsford City Hall. The more that attend the better. We hope for a final decision on that day in favor of shutting down any ideas of entertaining a cable park be built at alber dyck park. We have volunteered to help the people leading the cable park venture team to find a better more suitable site. Thanks for the help BOS'ers. If I forgot anything or you have a questions please ask. Cheers!

Yup I'm here and I think I will need to order some BOS stickers.

I would go 6L. Because I still barefoot and the extra 2-4 mph really makes a difference. Talked to Greg over at Nautique said the 6L is hands down more efficient the 400 HP not the 450 HP.

Lot's of great stuff in here. I think the one thing that really drives me is when skiing out at a public lake with some novice drivers that when you fall they crank the wheel and smash the throttle wide open and whip back to pick me up. Mean while sending 2 ft rollers down the ski line not to mention everywhere else. They learn eventually with a little positive encouragement.

Thanks again, I guess I just assume a bit that a near 100% or 100% carbon ski will ride a little "rougher" in the "chop" then a 50/50 like the vice but I guess there are also those steps to be considered. Anyway I will try them both out as soon as possible and hop on'em and see how they stack up. So in your opinion running into 38' the Vice is more or less a Strada at a cheaper price. Sorry I am getting of track here a little bit. Really no difference util you are in to 39' or 41'. Side note where did you have your binders on the co x/sl. Thanks for all the help. Cheers!

Thanks I think that helps a lot. I can get my hands on either of them new for $500 bucks each and I have performance guarantee so if I don't like one I can trade it for the other one. Essentially a demo program. That is Canadian pricing too. I like to do my best to support my local dealer even thought it's costing me an extra $100 bucks. How is the dampness of the 2 skis. The co X/sl is almost 100% carbon fiber compared to the 50/50 of the vice. Notice anything significant when skiing in "a little" rougher conditions. Wind blown, etc.

Hi just looking for a quick comparison on these two skis and how they stack up against each other. I'm 6'2", 235 lb. just starting to cut the rope 36 mph skier do spend time at 32-34 mph when working on new line lengths.