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Stevie, analyse what you are saying or feeling. At a best guess sounds like it is over turning on the onside? There are fin adjustment 'solutions', but most likely its you and you need a keen eye to pick up an embedded habit that's stopping you progressing. Don't mean to be harsh. See if you can get a friend to video and slow mo it. If its any consolation, I run a 2016 vapor in UK water. I have got use to its 2 stage turn on the onside, I have smoothed this out a bit with a CG fin that I had lying about! If I reach to the pylon its cool, gives me everything I want, reach further forward (climb over the front)and it will be a handful, it will break me in half with too much angle too soon. Matt Southam (Xtreme-gene, spain) is a radar skier. Take a cheap and cheerful flight to Spain for a few days, he will sort you out. I have just been out there for 4 days and had a blast, but most of all he sorted some subtle issues that I was not aware of. (See the pic on the website, *Rob ...........*) I also like retail therapy, in the last xx years ... CR7, sixam 2 pt, sixam ss, HO A3, D3 Q45, Denali 3.4, Denali c65, Vapor 2016. Sometimes a new purchase re-boots the system ! All of the above I have run into 12m bar the C65 which I never made friends with. Sixam 2pt I ran 12 and had a futile attempt at 11.25. I bought the vapor off e-bay last year just because of frustration with the last purchase. It will take you most of the season to adjust to the new stick, and find you still have the same problem! Concentrate on you and you will ride this out.

Than, Pro gear gloves are the way forward. The key to using them is to make sure the velcro on the back of the hand is real tight, that is first hand from Clint at the Swiss who makes them. This stops any rucking, which causes hand problems. The grip is the best and they are tough. I changed last year from many years of K-palms, I wouldn't go back. I believe Cale uses them, so check with him being a Denali pilot. Give it a few sets and you will forget about gloves. Regards R.

@Horton . That last picture is a proper BOS! Great review, thank you very informative. All credit to @cord and @caldwell for breaking the 'mold' and creating a product that is fast and slow, to quote. "This ski is the best example of the merging of these two paradigms. Unique and maybe unicorns exist? Dam, I need that uncomfortable conversation with Mrs P about my ski for next year.

Horton nice skiing. Was that as easy as it looked? Colour coordinated as well added to the harmony of that video!

AdamCord.....Not in poor taste, we all need a reminder of the good stuff that you guys have written. Thanks, note to self, go back and read the GUT articles. Now I can look at the video with a more informed eye.

Adam Cord Hint: He's not trying to get to a wide point early...OK, tell me more. I missed that bit. This video has a strange affect on me, I kind of stare at it and just start dreaming I am doing what Cale is doing. Dam he makes the whole process look so easy. The swing he gets off the rope is fabulous, I wish I had that line tension and connection to pivot round. Tell me me more, maybe I am trying too hard to generate space and just end up with dead rope that I can t rotate around?

Wow! It's mesmerising, I must of watched it a dozen times, then some more!

@dave2ball, 15 months ago I had a $1500 ski, apparently it held the current world record. I Could not get on with it. I spoke to the company about my issues and had little joy, in fact the response was poor. The final e-mail was a suggestion that I should buy this years model as it was better. This ski was hurting me, I either gave up or try something different. So I took a punt on a little known company who I had been following through BOS. I liked the new approach being an Engineer. Some of the crash test dummies even suggested this ski was so little effort that they could ski 3+ times a week. That suited me as I am no spring chicken. 3 sets in and I e-mailed the management with some feedback. Instant response, did as suggested, and on the 5th set ran 35off. My best for a number of years. Frankly I am crap, never likely to set the ski world on fire, but this ski gives me more smiles per set than anything I have ever ridden, and I can ski 3+ sets a weekend and still move on Mondays. So if you are keen to explore your potential, want to work with guys who care, then $200 is no big deal. But don't be a klutz and try one hoping it is a panacea to your ailments. Take some notes, analyse what you are doing and give some feedback. You'll be surprised what you might achieve. My issue is explaining to the wife why a ski I am having so much fun on needs to be replaced so soon!

Nam , don't be afraid to experiment, you will learn from the experience. Personally I would move both bindings back 1 hole, and then again if not happy. Take notes and evaluate. Within 3 sets you will have formed a better opinion. Skijay's book is definitive on the subject. Skijay put in literally hundreds of sets to develop his knowledge. But you can start too, it will help develop a rounded knowledge of your skiing. Binding position is key to me, the fin setting I can work round. But if your ski is stuck in a hole and stalling you need something more than 0.005" tweak. Subject to style caveats etc. Check out the fin database app and see if you are in the right zone. This is a great tool. Keep notes! Good luck.

Wish...can you share your latest settings for the Denali? I have been experimenting with binding positions on mine. (66.5" ) I am running much further back than last year and have had some interesting results. Front binding is now at 29.75". It was only through using the FDB app and looking at every model of ski 66" & 67" then comparing data that I thought I would experiment. The closest I could find was the Monte Carlo (66.5") that was nearly 1" further back which got me thinking. The key issue I was exploring was the ski was not finishing quite where I wanted, it was the very last part of the turn I was unhappy with. With the binding further back I am close to overturn, which I can bleed off as I take the load. Simply more tail slide. Regards Robert

My personal preference , Animal front (Rubber binding) + rtp. Below 18c water temp I use Vaseline on my front foot. I do not do the laces up, never have. Front of the foot is plenty tight. I can release on the dock/in water without too much effort. Do what wish says, let go fight another day. Do what Horton says, You MUST be able get out of your bindings on the dock or in the water without loosening or unbuckling anything. My ankles are worth more than '2 bouys extra' on some system that requires a preventative maintenance programme. It still staggers me how many people I watch day in day out go ski without checking anything on their ski. Plenty of screws loose! I have seen the odd fin hanging on by a thread! Your average skier is not qualified/trained to run technically complex systems. Most people I have met don't even know where the bindings should be placed. Yet they will try and run the course with circa $600 of hard plastic locked down to their ski in the wrong position. Recently I watched a skier promote the virtues of a White cuff hardshell binding for skiing. He was learning to do a deep water start! 10 attempts later he got up. Only to pre-release on his first attempt to cross the wake free skiing. He hurt himself and did not ski again that week. I go as far as saying;- I would like to try a double RTP! Just for fun. Probably safer than a lot of systems.

Wish Yes I know the pain well, I have managed to do that without the rope breaking! Some of the basics like, sneezing and coughing are no fun, sleeping , lack of skiing all adds to the torment. As Bruce said, three weeks and start to build it up slowly as you will be tentative on that load side. My physio recommended breathing exercises after he popped my ribs back into my spine, it was my back pain that was most debilitating. This did not appear immediately, but later into my recovery, ~2 weeks. Might be worth a trip to the physio and check out all aspects of your rib cage. Although you hit the front/side quite often its the back that takes the damage. A week after that I was back on the water. It is worth the cost to get you well soonest. Sorry this is no consolation but get well soon, we need you and your input back on the lake. Regards.....Robert

John, I used to get the same! I put it down to one of two things. 1) You are getting old. 2) Pushing through the back foot on the onside pull to gain back lost time on skis that are too slow at the buoy. Recommended remedies:- 1) Keep skiing, don't worry the madness stops in a few weeks and you can take 5 months off. 2) Sit on the sofa with Danger and watch the Disney channel all afternoon. (Works with my daughter! Snow white, Dumbo, Jungle book....classics, I never appreciated how brilliant they were. Bonus is; the wife doesn't know I hurt like hell she thinks I am having Dad time) 3) Buy a Denali, the pain has gone away this year! No ****, I just don't hurt this year. Point and hold, no need to yank your guts out. 4) Drink more beer?

1. Denali Never enjoyed skiing so much, as our season ends I am so looking forward to next year. I do not always ski technically well, but their is something different about this ski that just seems to help me. The only ski I have never had a frustration with, If I have had a concern I have just tuned it out. (Weak analogy....but ...You can not drive a slow car fast, but you can drive a fast car slow) It only has one limitation, me.

Wish, I will second that. I have never been on a ski with a more predictable front end. The general consensus from the Denali forum is to use the 'front' of the ski. Connected with an efficient ending, handle to the hip and you will generate cross course speed and the resultant space that will make you question the boat speed! 40 sets in to my marriage and I am loving the relationship. With a meticulous log detailing the trials and tribulations of my skiing life I have a product that is working for me. I have the front end grip I am looking for on the offside for a confident back under the line turn, an onside that will just do what I want. Finally this product does not hurt me. At 58 I was close to giving up last year . 30 years of slalom , the effort required to get from one side to the other was starting to take it's toll. I was in permanent recovery from just skiing 4 times a week. This has been mentioned before before in previous posts, but this ski is so little effort...it must be science. I do not hurt! I wish I was in my 30's I could do this justice. I will never push this skis boundaries, but as our Autumn draws in I am already looking forward to next years skiing.