@ GregHind and to all that helped with advice: success sort of..... The good: 4 blade prop is unbelievable, planed off in half the time and no more "full throttled" when it is time to go, better wake and better bite in the turns etc. good choice. Warmed up on two skis, only boat there, then attempted deep water starts with both feet in. !st time handle popped, second and third time got pulled over the front no matter how hard I concentrate on keeping a shallow angle. Have both legs bent to my butt as hard/far as I can but not happening. Cannot figure this out. So get a Dick Pope on and get up on two, piece of cake, get speed backed down some and drop the already loose Dick Pope slowly, and then "it starts" (has happened before) as I search for the RTP with my right foot the ski starts to "snake" left and right, I cannot seem to control that and wind up putting my rear foot on top of the RTP to keep from falling, went maybe 1200 feet and let go of the rope. I then did another 2 ski start and tried "dumping" the xtra ski fairly early and again cannot get into the RTP without the ski snaking on me and I fell. Was thinking about a one leg out start but I was pretty shot and wanted my daughter to ski before weather went downhill. So............plenty of power, good 69 inch ski, Deep V handle harness, just can't put it all together. Wish I knew why the ski starts to Snake or S turn on me when I drop one. Will give it another shot in a week or so. My thanks to everyone who commented, really helped me mentally! Dave