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@Bracemaker....totally agree on the SA. I just found it interesting that the width and SA were so similar between the two and was curious if the 68 Vapor and 67 Senate aren't very similar in how they ski, particularly given the widths. Ideally I'd ski both, but unless I demo both new versions, that's not likely to happen.

@jhughes, @MJE...interesting you found a substantial difference in the two. Particularly given the nearly identical dimensions. Maybe a slightly different construction for the senate vs vapor? Or maybe it's in the recommended fin settings/binding positions? Despite the nearly identical dimensions, the settings recommendations are slightly different on the Radar website.

@aupatking....your comment might cost me some money!! Thanks for your input.

Thanks guys. If the construction is the same and the dimensions between the 68 vapor and 67 Senate are the same, seems like they would ski very similar. That opens up more options on buying used as there are far more vapors out there than senates. @jhughes...no I love the 15. But I am right on the size cutoff so dropping to 32MPH I think a jump to a 68" Vapor (or 67" Senate) would be best, unless you all think otherwise. Also my son decided to explode in growth this year so I am going to bump him from his old 65" A2 to my old 67" 15 Vapor....Good excuse for me to get a new ski!

I'm currently on a 67" 2015 inch vapor looking to upgrade (22, aspiring 28 off). I love the ski but am looking to slow from 34mph to 32mph due to age and unhappy joints. From what I can see looking at the specs, the 68" Vapor and 67" Senate have nearly identical surface area and width. So....1) Are the guts of the two skis essentially the same such that they would ski very similar? and 2) which of the 2016-2020 Vapor/Senate years would you suggest ? (I don't like to mess with the fin much so easiest to set-up and go would be my preference) Thanks for your help.

@Gloersen...very nice preliminary work. How very 'engineer' of you! Looking forward to your assimilation of the raw data into useful and accurate curves for each setting particularly as they relate to position in the course. The question is whether the precision of your telemetry will allow for that in any meaningful way.

Do you have the touch screen or gauges? If touch screen, are you getting a stage 1 or 2 overheat message? If so, agree with @bigtex2011...start with impeller

Liquid Edge in Farmer City, IL. Doug's a great guy.

@MISkier...’shoulders forward’, as in shoulders leading (toward front of ski) OR forward toward the boat? Assuming the former.

Thoughts?

Solved!! Thanks for all the help guys.

Similar situation. Broken ankle after partial release from Strada's. Switched to OB4/MOB four years ago. Took some time to adjust and routine maintenance is imperative but now I love them. I've had multiple falls and in every case both boots released. No issues with ankles since. One sidenote: it seems the upper body impacts are harsher during a fall as compared with other bindings. Almost seems like when I release there is more of an angular momentum into the water because of the sudden release after a buildup of potential energy. If that makes sense.

Thanks a ton all.

@jjackrash and @Zman: So I checked the strainer and sure enough there are air bubbles and the gasket isn't seated correctly. Great call!! So, forgive my ignorance here, but can i just wait for the engine to cool then twist the clear cover off and reseat the gasket OR do i have to drain something before I remove the cover? Clearly not a gearhead!!! Thank you.

Good input. Thank you.