@wish , yeah I was refering to the CL ad, i thought 9k was kinda steep also especially since I can get a 88-93 MC for around the same or cheaper if I'm patient. I'm gonna try it out tomorrow if the weather is good and offer 6500 , not really sold on the boat so it will have to be in pretty good shape. Thanks for the links though and the time spent looking them up for me :)