Baller ROBOT Posted August 13 Baller Share Posted August 13 Our best selling shape in our highest end construction. PMI foam is undoubtedly the lightest, most responsive foam on the market. We wrap that foam in Textreme spread tow carbon to make this Senate the fastest, most aggressive Senate we’ve ever created. Now those skiing 28-34 MPH in the course truly have a racecar of a Senate to write home about. Find it at radarskis.com 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted August 13 Baller Share Posted August 13 No mention of the “new tech and base material”. Wondering if that’s Vapor only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BGrow76 Posted August 13 Baller Share Posted August 13 @brooks @Chris Rossi any chance we will ever see a 66" Senate Pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 13 Baller Share Posted August 13 Or 68! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 13 Baller Share Posted August 13 My guess is we will never see a 66 or 68 senate Molds are to expensive if you are dialed in to size you should just get a vapor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted August 14 Baller Share Posted August 14 Due to the extra width, the 65 & 67 really seem to bridge the 66 & 68 inch sizes pretty nicely. My old ski partner ran -35 on his 67 pretty regularly at 210 pounds, maybe a little more. He was on a 68 of any other ski and still not running that many buoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 14 Baller Share Posted August 14 I believe @Ski Dawg ran into -41 on a 67" Senate Pro in 2019 or so. He was 200ish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier ColeGiacopuzzi Posted August 14 Elite Skier Share Posted August 14 Yeah because of the extra width there is no need to do every size. @aupatking said best. The 25 Senates followed suite with the Vapors with the new base material as well. Radar Skis Follow Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 14 Baller Share Posted August 14 @ColeGiacopuzzi from what I remember the older 65 Senate had more surface area than the 66 vapors per the spec sheets. Which made sense to jump on a 65 senate. The new senates have less so a 66 version would be nice but that’s a pipe dream. I feel right in between. Having skied both 65/67 ….the 65 felt a bit small , the 67 felt huge . But 67 can be tuned to feel smaller …🤷♂️. Can’t win so I’ll stay on my Vapor which I know love 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 14 Baller Share Posted August 14 The 67" Senate has roughly the same surface area as the 68" vapor but a .1 more width. The next jump up to the 69" Senate is huge. It would be nice to get that little extra width plus a little more surface area on a 68" senate. I think it makes a difference if you are a heavy-ish occasionally sub 34 MPH skier. But I realize this is probably a pipe dream. At 34 mpg I can jump back and further between the two pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lefty Posted August 14 Baller Share Posted August 14 FWIW, at 165# (-22@34mph)I am in the range of a bunch of Radar skis coming off a '23 66" pro. Tried a few versions and after some great advice from @ColeGiacopuzzi settled on a 67" Vapor pro which seems to be precisely what I wanted , a bit more stable, a bit more glide, a bit less effort at the expense of a longer turning radius. I like it so much that I considered buying another as backup in case they change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BGrow76 Posted August 14 Baller Share Posted August 14 @aupatking @ColeGiacopuzzi I don't see how two skis can bridge the gap that have a fixed length and width. The 65" is like a 66" and the 67" is like a 68". For those that normally ski on a 65", 67" or 69" they are left in the middle. This is not different than saying you only need every other size Vapor to cover all skiers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted August 15 Baller Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, BGrow76 said: @aupatking @ColeGiacopuzzi I don't see how two skis can bridge the gap that have a fixed length and width. The 65" is like a 66" and the 67" is like a 68". For those that normally ski on a 65", 67" or 69" they are left in the middle. This is not different than saying you only need every other size Vapor to cover all skiers... The Senate weight range is larger for each length. If the Vapor were only available in 65, 67, 69…. there would be holes in the weight ranges. These are also suggested sizes based on weight. If you really like the Senate but feel heavy on one but too light for the next, I understand that you would want an “in-between” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted August 19 Baller Share Posted August 19 The 24/25 Senate Pro shape is the best one to date in my opinion. Chris Rossi and team have their very capable hands full trying to come up with something better for 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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