Administrators Horton Posted Monday at 10:51 PM Administrators Share Posted Monday at 10:51 PM Monaco Slalom Cup - June 25-26 Webcast https://www.twitch.tv/studiowakepark Waterski ProTour https://www.waterskiprotour.com/ Live Results & Running Orders https://www.iwwfed-ea.org/classic/24MON001/ 5 1 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted Tuesday at 09:50 AM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 09:50 AM TWBC you have spoiled us!!!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted Tuesday at 10:57 AM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 10:57 AM Great skiing by Jamie Bull! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted Tuesday at 11:54 AM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 11:54 AM Unwatchable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luv2Ski Posted Tuesday at 12:21 PM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 12:21 PM Thanks for posting this Horton. I had no idea there would be a webcast. It's not wonderful but at least it's something. I applaud people for trying but so far no one can come close to TWBC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted Tuesday at 12:32 PM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 12:32 PM Looks like they are skiing in rain right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted Tuesday at 12:47 PM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 12:47 PM I get no sound, but maybe that's just as well. Yeah rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted Tuesday at 12:55 PM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 12:55 PM They said full broadcast tommorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Slalom.Steve Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM Baller_ Share Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM Is there no way to rewind the stream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller APB Posted Tuesday at 02:21 PM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 02:21 PM I don’t think so… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mrs_MS Posted Tuesday at 02:44 PM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 02:44 PM Anyone have women’s round 1 results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Slalom.Steve Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM Baller_ Share Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM 12 minutes ago, Mrs_MS said: Anyone have women’s round 1 results? https://www.iwwfed-ea.org/competition.php?cc=T-24MON001&page=pro_f_slalom_results 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Clydesdale Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM Baller Share Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM Dear pro tournament organizers. I think we all agree TWBC is the gold standard. However, for various reasons it’s not always feasible to use them. We appreciate anything you do, but please please please choose a broadcaster that uses YouTube. Twitch is crap. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted Wednesday at 08:07 AM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 08:07 AM What happened to Jamie Bull in the second round? Shows a score of 6 @ 12m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RobHazelwood Posted Wednesday at 08:13 AM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 08:13 AM 5 minutes ago, gmut said: What happened to Jamie Bull in the second round? Shows a score of 6 @ 12m Two passes and home to rest for finals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member PUoldmaid Posted Wednesday at 03:12 PM Supporting Member Share Posted Wednesday at 03:12 PM WHat just happened to Freddie? Can't rewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TMay Posted Wednesday at 03:18 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:18 PM Trying to get around 5 @ 41 and crashed into the dock, not sure how serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luv2Ski Posted Wednesday at 03:19 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:19 PM Dam. I hope Freddie is ok. I wish they would announce an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lantley Posted Wednesday at 03:29 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:29 PM @PUoldmaid He was pulling hard for 3 or 5 (don't remember, but TMay says 5) and had too much speed at the buoy. He basically never switched edges. Dropped the handle at the buoy, the rear foot came out, he glided for a bit without losing speed before tumbling head over heels towards the dock. The video was blurry since the boat kept going, but there was a trail of spray that abruptly ended at the dock. People ran down there immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Booze Posted Wednesday at 03:32 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:32 PM From the chat... Prime Gamingnkrbrt: Broke leg or feet Prime Gamingnkrbrt: no injury at the head or back bobslalom: thanks for sharing ! not nice but could be a lot worse Prime Gamingnkrbrt: yes ... Prime Gamingnkrbrt: maybe the Femur bobslalom: end of season probably 🥲 createcommotion: 🙌🏻 it looked bad. Prime Gamingnkrbrt: They are waiting the Ambulance Prime Gamingnkrbrt: Ambulance it's here Prime Gamingnkrbrt: it's the leg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM That's awful, hope he's ok. Looking at the main feed on the webcast you can see the dock is just down course of 5 ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VermontSkier Posted Wednesday at 03:38 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:38 PM That is devastating. I hope @Freddie Winter is okay. Shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Clydesdale Posted Wednesday at 03:45 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:45 PM Broadcast says “currently on hold”, but I see people skiing. Is the tournament continuing? Perhaps the safety will stop it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller whitem71 Posted Wednesday at 03:53 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 03:53 PM Webcast and comp back on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted Wednesday at 04:20 PM Author Administrators Share Posted Wednesday at 04:20 PM I'm hearing broken femur, although I'm sure this is still developing Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member PUoldmaid Posted Wednesday at 04:41 PM Supporting Member Share Posted Wednesday at 04:41 PM All the healing to you @Freddie Winter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted Wednesday at 04:47 PM Baller_ Share Posted Wednesday at 04:47 PM Crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted Wednesday at 05:51 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 05:51 PM Awful news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jsh809 Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM This sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cooper_Trelawney Posted Wednesday at 05:55 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 05:55 PM Terrible news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller APB Posted Wednesday at 06:15 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 06:15 PM He was going so fast… whatever it is… speedy recovery Freddie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller B_S Posted Wednesday at 06:21 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 06:21 PM Man, that's awful news to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted Wednesday at 06:26 PM Baller Share Posted Wednesday at 06:26 PM On 6/25/2024 at 5:21 AM, Luv2Ski said: Thanks for posting this Horton. I had no idea there would be a webcast. It's not wonderful but at least it's something. I applaud people for trying but so far no one can come close to TWBC. TWBC is awesome, no doubt, but I REALLY like the on-screen running order, live scoring updates, etc on this Monaco webcast. Huge fan of that! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted Thursday at 11:38 AM Baller Share Posted Thursday at 11:38 AM So they have a dock that close to the course?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller storm34 Posted Thursday at 12:10 PM Baller Share Posted Thursday at 12:10 PM 😳 - not sure if this is the dock in question but dang that's tight! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chaloux Posted Thursday at 12:29 PM Baller Share Posted Thursday at 12:29 PM Here we go re: discussion on things close to the slalom course like ramps and now docks again. Queue the two sides: it's been fine there forever until now, and safety is paramount. Thank you and you're welcome. In all seriousness, I really hope Fred heals quickly and comes back better than ever. That really really sucks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted Thursday at 12:59 PM Baller Share Posted Thursday at 12:59 PM Looks like the video for day 1 was posted fairly quickly after that aired but they still haven't posted day 2. I wanted to watch the finals but maybe they are worried about showing the injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DerrisB Posted Thursday at 10:08 PM Baller Share Posted Thursday at 10:08 PM Wow that is super bad news to hear about Freddie. Broken femur and out for the season? Dang. I will say it’s super frustrating to hear about it on instagram and not be able to go back and see what happened. It would be great if we could somehow come together in the ski community and help TWBC do a sort of franchise thing. There are so many folks out there using various forms of technology to conduct tournaments (including recording them) that one would think we could close the gap between the podunk US tournaments and some of these European tournaments to the level of TWBC if we just got together and made an attempt at unifying the broadcasting and digging down to more local levels. This is one thing I think would boost popularity. Now for sure, I understand that TWBC has invested soooo much money and time in innovating the broadcasts and I know there’s no way we could scale that level of production out to tons and tons of tournaments, but I would think we could at least start somewhere and maybe do some of the bigger regional events that have some of the better, more experienced skiers in them. I also know that when you start getting people to “organize” things, that you get seemingly more headaches than the whole thing is worth. But, if the sport is dying as I keep hearing, and we want to keep doing this crazy mess, that may be one way to start. ‘or maybe I’m crazy too. 🤷♂️🤪😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted Thursday at 11:36 PM Baller Share Posted Thursday at 11:36 PM It appears that the video is on YouTube. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chaloux Posted Friday at 12:30 AM Baller Share Posted Friday at 12:30 AM Skip to 48 minutes Does not look good 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted Friday at 01:27 PM Baller Share Posted Friday at 01:27 PM I think for years past the set ups at most lakes had adequate safety margins for obstacles. Now with so many of the pros and many of the young guns, 41 is becoming a normal thing which has a large speed component attached. These safety margins where pro events are being held need to be revisited. Proof is in this video. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted Friday at 06:10 PM Author Administrators Share Posted Friday at 06:10 PM @S1Pitts maybe. I think it is like speed limits. We would all be safer if we drove 45 mph but we accept the risk and drive 75+. If I am correct that Fred's accident is indeed a freak accident then let's not overreact. If someone shows me photos that shows the dock in Monaco was unusually close to the course then I will reconsider my position. 1 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lundberg Posted Friday at 07:18 PM Baller Share Posted Friday at 07:18 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted Friday at 07:57 PM Baller_ Share Posted Friday at 07:57 PM @lundberg, what are the Google Earth coordinates? That ball looks really close to the dock. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lundberg Posted Friday at 08:00 PM Baller Share Posted Friday at 08:00 PM @MISkier 43.408791127084655, 6.694448283019745 83520 Roquebrune-sur-Argens, France Google Earth picture does not have the ramp and dock in place but Google Maps does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted Friday at 08:10 PM Baller_ Share Posted Friday at 08:10 PM 5 ball is 54 feet from the dock and directly in line with an overshoot of that ball. If it wasn't there, he likely would have slid up on shore and probably fared better with an additional 15-18 feet before leaving the water up onto the grass. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BGrow76 Posted Friday at 08:23 PM Baller Share Posted Friday at 08:23 PM Will coming around 5 ball at 41', the dock looks close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted Friday at 09:36 PM Author Administrators Share Posted Friday at 09:36 PM @BGrow76 @MISkier if the skier has the handle anywhere near the ball line they literally can't get to that dock. Freddie was under extreme load and going very fast past the second white water and roughly in line with the bottom of the ramp when he lost the handle. He then stayed on the ski keeping his speed high for maybe another 50 ft and about to the ball line. He never switched edges so his trajectory was much more cross coarse than would be normally possible. I think he lost the handle somewhere around the red oval below. I think he traveled a LONG way. Simply very unlucky. I believe this is a freak accident. I do not think that the dock is in a normally dangerous place. We are all speculating so... If someone who has skied there wants to chime in I am all ears. 1 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted yesterday at 05:54 AM Baller Share Posted yesterday at 05:54 AM I am not suggesting the dock is to be relocated. Something like a 12 inch thick pad attached to the three water sides of the dock for high end events? Cheaper and would ad a level of protection. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted yesterday at 10:48 AM Baller Share Posted yesterday at 10:48 AM Ski resorts have these pads on the lift towers. About 10 years ago when I worked at Deer Valley a long time Austrian ski instructor was skiing with his 2 kids on the last day of the season. He hit a lift tower on an intermediate run and died on the spot. Ski Patrol was on scene in 3 minutes, COR to no avail. Bottom line, over 20 mph strike and it’s over. Experience doesn’t matter, accidents will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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