‘24 Vapor binding questions

[Ski4fun]

Just upgraded to the ‘24 Radar Vapor bindings and noticed there is no foot bed in the Intuition liners on this model. 
 

Feels fine without a foot bed and in fact molded them without one, but wondering if most people are adding a Superfeet style foot bed or foregoing them now?

 

Also a newbie question: what are the Velcro straps for included in the parts bag?

 

Thanks in advance all you genius ballers!

[rawly]

The Velcro is to stiffen the cuff up if mounting to a mechanical release. I ran a footbed in all my previous vapors , but with the 24 , no footbed and I put thin plastic shim stock under the insert to get the exact fit I wanted. Used the shim stock under previous models to help with ejection and to keep the insert bosses that mount the binding from tearing up the bottom of the liner. Here’s a .025 piece I used that I replaced once the inserts busted through. The new boot doesn’t have the bosses that stick up. Radar fixed that issue. 

[igkya]

I use a Superfeet insert on my rear/right foot, mainly due to that foot being smaller and the insert makes the binding fit better.

[APB]

I can’t run a foot bed in mine. I had always ran a Superfeet in my old vapor boots. The new one has some arch molded into the base of the binding, so when I put an insole in there…. It’s way too high of an arch support. 
 

I do miss being able to put an insole with a proper arch support and entire base of the foot support into my intuition liner. I ride intuition liners in my snowboard boots and an insole is key to making them perform properly.

[vtmecheng]

I don’t use anything and it’s comfortable. Probably not for everyone though.

[m_pags]

I believe the Velcro Strap is used to go around the upper part of the liner when you take the cuff off the back boot and use it as a HRT or hybrid.  

[ToddK]

@Ski4fun It's my understanding the Velcro strap is most commonly used for the front boot when running a Reflex release to limit the forward flex and transfer the force to the binding so it will release at the appropriate point. 

[stevezie]

The difference is the interior footbed of the boot on the new model is contoured with arch support. The previous version which had superfeet style inserts for the liner had a completely flat interior to the boot. 

[OldboyII]

Release of Vapor boot is  - liner goes out of the boot, not foot from the liner. Securing liner around the ankle with strap provides proper release action with foot in the liner. Once after OTF I found ski and the liner afloat on the distance of 10 meters from me and each other )))