Elite Skier Terry Winter Posted March 29 Elite Skier Share Posted March 29 This is a 36/35' pass where I have already started moving on to the left edge a few frames before... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 101driver Posted March 30 Baller Share Posted March 30 On 3/27/2024 at 5:08 PM, ColeGiacopuzzi said: To answer the original question of this thread I just move the spot where I pull out depending on the wind, I don't try to adjust the duration of my pullout. Building off what @twhisper is saying, I definitely am looking at the gates once my pullout has started. This isn't for everyone, but I stand in the same spot and use the left 55 and one ball and use that intersection of them to start my pullout. (I always felt this was extremely consistent) Once my eyes leave there I'm looking at the gates for timing and adjustments like Terry said. @ColeGiacopuzzi Your technique above intrigued me, so yesterday as it was my first ski of the season and I was just shaking me and boat down I tried your technique. I really like it it removes rope length variability and the trigonometry fixes the start point. I normally pull out with 55's 1/2 boat length in front of boat. Tail wind more head wind less. Yesterday @15off wind was 26-28mph straight down course so that is 55's a full boat length before bow with, at bow against. Presumably you just observe the green and 1buoy moving into alignment and go a certain distance before alinment for tail wind and a fraction after (time or distance) for head wind, is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier ColeGiacopuzzi Posted March 30 Elite Skier Share Posted March 30 @101driver Great to hear! Yeah it’s definitely different and I realize it’s not for everyone, but glad to hear it worked. It is for sure more consistent, the only time I’ve had trouble with it is with glare, but that hasn’t happened often. Yes that is correct, and I go out a tad later as the line gets shorter as well. Radar Skis Follow Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted March 30 Baller_ Share Posted March 30 Tried the left 55-one ball recommendation today. Best gates in a long time for this 15 off oldguy skier - thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 101driver Posted March 30 Baller Share Posted March 30 @Rednucleus Glad it worked for you too.😀 @ColeGiacopuzzi Thank you for clarification and additional advice on line length. I am going to go with this technique I like it. I need to fit the new ski buoys (at least on No 1, the ones I leave on during winter are nearly white, with the white caps on the rollers and the spray and icey wind it was challenging spotting alignment but I guess my brain will auto program in to do this with practice. Really looking forward to seeing how this compares to my normal pull out point on a non windy day so I can then start to dial in. It seems pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 30 Administrators Share Posted March 30 For what it is worth The green balls are 55 meters / 180ish feet from the red balls At 55k the boat is going roughly 50 feet per second From my first move left until my first move right is about 4 seconds - what I see on video My perception is that I move left when the boat is about 20 feet before the green balls It makes sense to me that the green balls are at least 25 feet behind the boat when I stand up to glide. Need some different camera angles to prove me right or wrong. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ETskier Posted March 31 Baller Share Posted March 31 Guys, Steve Schnitzer was teaching that 55-1ball technique 30 years ago. (It began with using the gates and 5 ball before we had 55s.)The sight line never changes for line length. Also works for your turn in for the gates. Example, for me, the 1 ball needs to be about the gate's width past the left gate bouy. In both cases the angles are aways the same. Oddly, I got away from this in 2016 and struggled for several years and just went back to it the last week with promising results. As for the wind, my above post works right in. For me it's all about eliminating the variables. Hopefully I'll get back to where I used to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted March 31 Baller_ Share Posted March 31 Today's the 1st time I tried it, and it's the 1st time I felt like I wasn't guessing where to start the pull. Excited to ski tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 101driver Posted March 31 Baller Share Posted March 31 @ETskier I will definitely try the #1 buoy line up with a gate width wide of gate buoy. I struggle with this more than the pull out point. I know my width position relative to buoy line, I just know I need to wait longer before rolling in and sometimes I do but it is a mental battle like putting a chocoholic in a chocolate factory, I should resist but sometimes I can't, having a tangible measure will at least give me a different focus. Thank you for posting. Looking forward to trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier ColeGiacopuzzi Posted April 1 Elite Skier Share Posted April 1 @ETskier Yeah its definitely been around for a while I was taught by Ian Trapp I think back in 2007 and it just stuck. 2 Radar Skis Follow Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 101driver Posted April 11 Baller Share Posted April 11 Ok so I am giving you the credit for this @ColeGiacopuzzi even though not a new technique you introduced it to me. First day back on the water since your update. Worked well after missing the first 6 passes due to ski operator error.........lined up with a duck instead of a buoy1.......... Got it dialled in works great so volume set for rest 4,5,6,6,6,6. Definitely works for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Raseyeguy1 Posted May 9 Baller Share Posted May 9 On 4/1/2024 at 11:21 AM, ColeGiacopuzzi said: @ETskier Yeah its definitely been around for a while I was taught by Ian Trapp I think back in 2007 and it just stuck. OK, I'm a bit dense...Can you diagram exactly what you are talking about? Do you mean when the bow of the boat crosses the line between 1 ball and the left 55 that you start the pull out? And I'm totally confused as to how to use the one ball and entrance gates to start the pull into 1. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier ColeGiacopuzzi Posted May 9 Elite Skier Share Posted May 9 @Raseyeguy1 Don't worry about where the boat is. Instead of using the boat and the 55s you're using an intersection of 2 buoys. I usually stand at the edge of the whitewash, and I'm looking for 1 ball and the left green 55 buoy to intersect and I start my gate pullout. This is at 36mph so you might need to play with timing a bit depending on your speed. 1 Radar Skis Follow Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted May 9 Baller_ Share Posted May 9 I have been doing this the past month as a 30-32mph skier. Really like it. For head wind, I hold my pull for a 5 count, tail wind 3 count, best gates I have had in a while 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted May 10 Baller Share Posted May 10 @ColeGiacopuzzi My season is off to a slow start . Im still doing my early season 4 pass sets to get pack in shape. I tried the Lt 55/1 ball pull out today and gave me a great starting point. It was windy so I'll have to play around with how long to pull, but this definitely put me closer to the consistency I needed. Cant wait to dig into this deeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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