Administrators Horton Posted July 10, 2023 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2023 What do you do? Go... Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Revisit the script. E.g. you're focusing on step 4 but you forgot about steps 1-3, slump. Perfect example this morning when I fell at 2 ball at 32 off 3x in a row "mysteriously". The video shows I was turning in on the tail at the gate every time, that tends to show up at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) Take some time off and don’t think about skiing. Now on the flip side when you are skiing good press hard and build muscle memory. Edited July 10, 2023 by dave2ball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lcarnes Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 In his book Mastery George Leonard called it the plateau. It's the part of the journey that happens before the breakthrough IF you frame it as an essential part of the journey. Then you can embrace the "flat spot" as a signal to break your practice into smaller frames and refine and adjust without expectation of performance. In other words, what @jhughes said. For me, framing it as a slump makes me look for quick fixes that end up being bandaids. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Quit thinking about my turns, go back to leverage/lean. Sometimes take a free ski set or two just to clear my head, take the pressure off, have some fun and hit the re-set button. Then go back and a set of openers the next time out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) This is why video every time out is essential . So you can watch what you're doing (and not) and more easily see what the problems are. Otherwise - Groundhog day.................... Edited July 10, 2023 by MDB1056 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dano Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Ride a different ski for a few sets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rq0013 Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) For me, the slump starts to build as I try to run my hardest pass “smoother” which turns into me just being too slow and not high enough. I focus on gate height and speed and that usually brings me back. I know others ride different skis, change settings slightly, just to feel something different. I think this works but only for the honeymoon. Edited July 11, 2023 by rq0013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Slumps normally come, when you have over skied or tired, take a few days off, then when you go back, Front Foot everywhere, chest up, stay calm. Generally works for me, when it goes wrong and I am tired, I get on the back of the ski, whether it be arms or stance, normally that's where the problem is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 Berate myself, get grumpy.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PatM Posted July 10, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) I hate watching video of myself. But last month I was in a slump and my wife secretly videoed me. After reluctantily looking at the video I was dipping my shoulder on the pull out for the gate. Next time out I concentrated on that one thing and it all came back. Maybe I should use video more. Hmm Edited July 10, 2023 by PatM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted July 11, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted July 11, 2023 Check my fin. 1 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihacker Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 What if the slump is like 4 yrs along????? Just asking for a friend, 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Hockdog Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 Sometimes you need to re-invent yourself and do a major change to bring you back to reality. We all have a tendency to ever so slightly wander down a rabbit hole after a certain number of sets and get stuck there trying to fix a problem that really started half a buoy back. Usually getting back to the basics at a longer rope length brings everything back and then you can move forward from there. Video-ing your passes is a good wake-up call to change something if you are willing to acknowledge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 11, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted July 11, 2023 Take the ski apart and put it all back together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rfa Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 13 hours ago, lpskier said: Check my fin. LOL John! If fin checks out, slump over? Hope to see you soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, skihacker said: What if the slump is like 4 yrs along????? Just asking for a friend, Hit the gym or bribe someone to tell you that you look like you lost some weight and then take your set. Its like when someone complements your suit before a wedding. Edited July 11, 2023 by BraceMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fam-man Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 Review notes and video, free ski to reset on key movements and remind myself this is all for fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 If in a slump I just jump on my old C-75 to shake things up. 3 Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chaloux Posted July 11, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2023 Buy a new boat. Needlessly spending money fixes nearly all my problems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LK_skier Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 blame the ski, the fin, the wakes, the driver, the weather.... lol... I've done all of that over the years - now I just take a break away from the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 101driver Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 PERSPECTIVE Am I stuck in a rut doing the same things over and over and expecting different outcomes? OR As ICARNES suggested "It's the part of the journey that happens before the breakthrough" I think most most Guys are on the money with their strategy, whether it be take a break, watch video, ask a friend, change fin ski boat. Once you do this your perspective changes and you can see where you are on the map or journey and you then know instinctively what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 Good question. I’ve lost 2 consistent passes. Video doesn’t show anything ugly enough to do that much damage. I’m almost out of rope to add back. Going to see Rini next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LOTW Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 Yep, real easy, go see Rini! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 I was in a rut for a week. Blamed it on warm water. Fin settings were way off either due to someone dropping, stepping on ski, or Horton visited MN incognito. Reset fin and added a smidge of depth. All good again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Take a couple weeks off to let a nagging injury heal, stay fit and listen to SprayMakers episode 13 Stay Focused, and while I’m taking time off the water do what @thager said, checking my ski’s set up. Edited July 12, 2023 by ALPJr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kmenard Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 I walk into a bar and find the ugliest.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eyepeeler Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 I've personally never had a slump...I don't believe in slumps...I don't even like the sound of the word slump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller cole_hoek Posted July 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2023 I stack the deck against myself and ski in very difficult conditions when I am feeling tired. I find doing this causes me to not overthink and simply focus on skiing with muscle memory and intensity. If you have a bad set, it can be expected because of the circumstances and it is no reason to beat yourself up. However, if you have an average or good set, it is a major confidence boost knowing you can power through hard conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted July 12, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted July 12, 2023 I vary my ski sets. Sometimes I run up the rope, sometimes I ski a whole set at a particular line length. Sometimes I work on skill A, sometimes skill B. Sometimes I practice trick skiing or ride my jump skis. By avoiding daily repetition, I avoid slumps. 2 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted July 13, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2023 What @jhughes said. Stop pounding the harder passes. Work on easier passes and get back to the basics, focus on fundamentals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MJE Posted July 13, 2023 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) Slow the boat down and ski for fun. Normally ski at 34.2, so ski a set at 30.4 and keep cutting the line till I miss. Or challenge a ski partner to a "how slow can you go" competition. Start at your opener and keep slowing the boat down in tournament increments to see who can run the slowest pass. Both actually force me to use good position and technique while also providing the most laughs/smiles. Edited July 13, 2023 by MJE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted August 2, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted August 2, 2023 So I ‘ve been in a bit of a slump. As noted above, when in a slump, check your fin. So I checked my fin. Sure enough it had moved back 10/1000 and the rear set screw was missing. After fixing that, I checked my bindings (which are mounted on a slide.) I’d tightened them up recently but hadn’t checked to make sure they are were they are supposed to be. Well, I’m thinking that correcting a 5/8” slide forward will pretty much fix my slump. I wish I’d discovered and corrected that before Regionals. 2 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted August 2, 2023 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2023 @lpskier are you on a Stiletto with the custom plastic fin box? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted August 2, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted August 2, 2023 @Drago. Nope. Denali. And it has a spectacular fin clamp. Just goes to show, you have to pay attention to your gear. I probably hadn’t checked my set up since March. FYI, slump fixed. 3 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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