Discontinued??? Nautique Super Air GS20

[utahslalom]

My brother in-law and I have been talking about crossover boats and he just noticed that Nautique does not have the GS20 listed on their website for 2023. Can anyone confirm? I personally feel the VTX and the GS20 have been the top choices for crossover boats. It would be sad to see Nautique exiting the crossover market.

[addkerr]

Funny I was only just looking at that myself.

Seems to be the new malibu Vtx is the only crossover boat now. The nxt20 although the same size as the prostar isn’t really a skiable boat for slalom. I’m in the opinion that a true crossover is impossible. You can get a ok wake boat that can’t ski or an ok ski boat that can’t surf / wake well.

[Woodybc62]

@utahslalom Nautique discontinued the GS line for 2023.

[jpwhit]

I don’t think crossover boats are practical now that surfing has become so dominant. When it was mainly skiing and wakeboarding you could bridge the gap with weight in the form of ballast. Now modern boats in both disciplines are relying on very specific hull designs. Sure you can throw a bunch of weight and a shaper on a ski boat and “surf”. But compared to a modern surf boat that would be about the same as telling a course skier they should be happy running the course using an I/O.

 

I gave up on the notion of a crossover long ago. If you want to ski the course and surf at a descent level. The practical option is 2 boats.

[utahslalom]

I think there are many skiers like me that don’t have access to a course and just need a boat that can ski well on the open water while also giving more room for the family due to an increased beam and freeboard. And if a boat like this can also produce a decent wake for beginner/intermediate surfers, then great. I consider myself lucky to own an RFXi and find that it is the perfect crossover boat for my family of six. It’s just sad to hear that there are fewer and fewer crossover boats in production.

[Kwoody51]

Mastercraft’s XT line is supposed to be a crossover boat. Few years back they had some promo shots of skiing behind an xt21 or xt22.

 

No direct skiing experience so can’t comment on wake quality.

[Horton]

I thought the Ski Nautique was a crossover boat. ;-)

[jpwhit]

I helped a long time family friend buy a "general use" boat 2 years ago to go with their new lake house. We ended up settling on an XT22. We are over there using the boat fairly often so I have first hand knowledge of how it performs. It surfs pretty well, and the ski wake is acceptable for recreational skiing if you're not very picky.

 

I should set some context for my earlier post in this thread. Since this site is very slalom specific, and the majority of people here do ski the course, that was the context for my earlier statement. A lot of people here when they talk about crossover, they are looking for a boat like the Sunsetter LXI, which is certainly slalom course capable. I don't think a crossover boat that is slalom course capable and can surf at a reasonable level is practical.

 

[Gbowles]

I have the 2018 VTX and it’s been great for the family. I was going to order the gs22 this year and saw they are not doing. I heard that it might be a mid year production. I hope so.

[Ronny61]

We get an awesome surf wave with our 2000 SS LXI and with the custom ballast system I installed it's only 10 minute set up time

[ironhorse]

One of the guys I ski with bought a GS22 this year and another ski buddy planned to order the GS20. The dealer said there will be a few changes for 2023 and it still hasnt been released, but it coming.

[lakeaustinskier]

I own a 2017 6 litre 200 for skiing the private lake course and a 2017 GS20 for surfing/family use. I had a space requirement so I bought the GS20. The GS20 has 695 hours. My kids and I use the boat a lot.

The GS20 works great for surfing. I have friends with other Nautiques, MCs, whatever and the GS20 surfs the same. Exact same wake and feel.

If you are a course skier beyond 15 off the GS20 slalom wake is horrible. Don't even bother.

It's disappointing that moving forward they're only going to make huge boats that are hard to trailer and keep on a lift.

[Taynton]

good riddance. those boats are crap, they don't ski well or surf well.

[Interjon]

Having owned one, I echo @lakeaustinskier comments.

[Dacon62]

Throw the current Prostar hull under the 20’ current MC V-drive.

[swc5150]

Here's the GS20 slalom wake :#

[UWSkier]

How they ever marketed that against the VTX as a crossover is beyond me. Are you sure they remembered to empty the ballast before that photo was taken? Yikes!

For comparison, here's a current-gen VTX wake at 30 MPH, which is really before the wake really starts getting good (32+).

[swc5150]

Yes, empty ballast. Just a bad slalom wake from what we're all used to.

[Ronny61]

2000 SS LXI at 34mph

[brettmainer]

If you want to surf, go to the ocean. Surfing behind a boat is kind of fun, but not the same as feeling the ocean under your feet.

[utahslalom]

Looks like the GS20 is back for 2023. Anxious to hear some reviews about the ski wake.

[utahslalom]

Looks like the GS20 is back for 2023. Anxious to hear some reviews about the ski wake.

[UWSkier]

someone out west needs to buy this. All it needs is PerfectPass, and maybe a heater.

I wish they still made boats that beautiful. None of the newer DDs can hold a candle looks-wise to the early '00's Malibu DDs or the various PS 197s.

https://www.onlyinboards.com/2001-Malibu-Sunsetter-LXi-for-sale-Thousand-Oaks-California-146620.aspx

[UWSkier]

someone out west needs to buy this. All it needs is PerfectPass, and maybe a heater.

I wish they still made boats that beautiful. None of the newer DDs can hold a candle looks-wise to the early '00's Malibu DDs or the various PS 197s.

https://www.onlyinboards.com/2001-Malibu-Sunsetter-LXi-for-sale-Thousand-Oaks-California-146620.aspx

[RAWSki]

The 200 appears the only model left that resembles a tradional ski boat.
The Tug(pug)-boat-styling definitly makes for more space and seating

[RAWSki]

The 200 appears the only model left that resembles a tradional ski boat.
The Tug(pug)-boat-styling definitly makes for more space and seating

[ironhorse]

Really not a fan of the front nose of this boat. As @RAWSki pointed out they pugged the GS front end like they did on the S model.

[ironhorse]

Really not a fan of the front nose of this boat. As @RAWSki pointed out they pugged the GS front end like they did on the S model.

[Mastercrafter]

Man, it looks like these boats are designed to haul coal or salt across the ocean.

[Mastercrafter]

Man, it looks like these boats are designed to haul coal or salt across the ocean.

[slow]

The Nautique Super Air 230 discontinued last year was the last styling i liked from them. Nautiques used to be so classic looking.

[slow]

The Nautique Super Air 230 discontinued last year was the last styling i liked from them. Nautiques used to be so classic looking.

[LoopSki]

It does seem like CC took some styling ideaa from Kohler! Lol

[LoopSki]

It does seem like CC took some styling ideaa from Kohler! Lol

[Killer]

Guys who cares how it looks. Nobody wants to ski this freighter. Move on.

Notice they didn't have 1 pic of Paige crossing the title wave? Nothing can be done about a massive freeboard, massive weight and a vdrive to make it ski well.

[Killer]

Guys who cares how it looks. Nobody wants to ski this freighter. Move on.

Notice they didn't have 1 pic of Paige crossing the title wave? Nothing can be done about a massive freeboard, massive weight and a vdrive to make it ski well.

[WDKinley]

On this clever long range drone shot you can clearly see how far behind the bump she is.

For a small percentage of the individuals on this board this is a perfect boat for them.I ski behind a 21' Sport Nautique with PP and Zbox. It's the definition of a crossover boat being that the running surface is the same as the Super Air Nautique of the same vintage was. When people complain about the size of the wake I tell them to ski faster ;)

[Horton]

Saying you want a great crossover boat is like saying you want low fat bacon. You can have low fat & you can have bacon but you can not have low fat bacon.

[Jody_Seal]

@Hortonso then what is Canadian bacon then if not low fat?

[Horton]

@Jody_SealCanadian bacon is not really bacon.

[WDKinley]

That makes sense from a hardcore skier perspective. From a 30000 ft view these boats have their place.... evidenced by even the small V drive boats outselling the hardcore ski boats year after year.

[Horton]

@WDKinley I understand the desire and need for these boats. I am just saying when you ask a dump truck to be a race car you get neither.

[Cooper_Trelawney]

@Jody_Seal I think Canadian Bacon is a John Candy movie ?

[UWSkier]

@Jody_Seal ham. Canadian bacon is ham.

[dvskier]

@UWSkier You got that right. It’s ham.

[Drago]

@Horton

[6balls]

@horton couldn't agree more, both auto and boats.

[Horton]

@Drago don't get me started on Subaru. Their marketing is amazing but holy &%$Q# did they F&*k me in the poop shoot a few years back. The wife and I each blew an engine in a Subaru within a week. Subaru love is the herpes simplex $40,000.

[Cammit]

@Horton little fun fact, there was a semi truck called shockwave that could do the quarter mile in 6.63 seconds. I’d say that’s a pretty good race car

[Killer]

Canadian bacon is peameal bacon. If you know, you know.