Guest Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Recommendations for removing water spots that are too stiff for Ducky, but not a totally neglected boat? Liquid Wax? Rubbing compounds that are not too aggressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted June 16, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2022 Vinegar and water. 50/50 mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted June 16, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2022 Hot Sauce is pretty darn good with a little elbow grease. 3M “light compound with wax” also does good for heavy water spots if you have a machine and a yellow wool wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 16, 2022 Administrators Share Posted June 16, 2022 @dave2ball why cut with water? Why not 100% vinegar? BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ KD Skis MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Rodics Innovation Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihacker Posted June 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2022 For years I've been using 50/50 vinegar and spray wax, "light" hard water spots it works pretty well and leaves some wax protection behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted June 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2022 @Horton we do t have a heavy water spot hard water issues like some of the lakes do in your area. 50/50 works best down here. It also cuts some of the acidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 17, 2022 Administrators Share Posted June 17, 2022 @dave2ball is there a real worry that 100% would damage gel coat? BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ KD Skis MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Rodics Innovation Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted June 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2022 @Horton not sure. Possible over time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted June 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2022 Vinegar is an exceedingly weak "acid" and if it does not cause harm to humans, doubt gel-coat would be adversely impacted. Hard water stains are caused by mineral deposits which result when the water evaporates to dryness leaving the minerals (such as iron, calcium, magnesium) behind. The stronger the acid, the more quickly the mineral deposit will dissolve and the less required. I have used muriatic acid (HCl), a strong acid on gelcoat with no adverse outcome. Lime-away is phosphoric acid which is "less strong" and also works well. Both are much "stronger acids" than vinegar. Simply apply, let minerals dissolve and rinse. Heck, as a reference, Coke has a pH of 3.65 and vinegar has a pH of 2 to 3...both are "weak acids" despite the pH. You can ingest both with no consequence. Lime-away has a pH of 1.2 to 2.0, but is a much "stronger acid so hence will dissolve minerals more quickly. It is the "alkalinity reducing ability" of the acid which determines strength, not pH. Maybe TMI, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted June 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2022 I've used lime-a-way and a dual action polisher with amazing success for very stubborn water spots. Make sure you wax again after as it strips everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted June 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2022 @Horton i use 100% and give it a good bath in it. I don’t wipe my boat down after every use like I should. Other than smelling like a salad afterwards, I don’t notice anything bad. I follow up with griots blue stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted June 17, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted June 17, 2022 I'll wager that Texas has the absolute worst water for "water spots" and associated film. Our water is VERY muddy and high temps make it a bitch to keep a boat clean. Lime away, vinegar and water, etc don't put a dent in it. I've resorted to a 50/50 mix of muriatic acid and water (plus lots of elbow grease) to clean my boats near the end of the season. Yep, nasty stuff that requires goggles and gloves, but that's the only thing that takes the spots and film off. And yes we always spray and wipe down the boat after every use. Bottom line is that the gelcoat more than handles that stuff with no damage. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted June 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2022 Vinegar and windex 50/50 then Top Coat F11 Pro. You can thank me later. Been doing this a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 17, 2022 Administrators Share Posted June 17, 2022 the babe's spot remover works very well BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ KD Skis MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Rodics Innovation Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swbca Posted June 18, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2022 I used 50/50 muriatic acid on my old ski nautique for years. Never affected the gel coat. But its nasty to inhale the fumes or spray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cp Posted June 18, 2022 Members Share Posted June 18, 2022 I have had great success with Boat Bling Hot Sauce and a clay towel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted June 18, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2022 The advantage of Windex / Vinegar is no effort and speed. As fast as you can spray it on and wipe it off the spots are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BGrow76 Posted June 23, 2022 Members Share Posted June 23, 2022 I'm going to try Windex/Vinegar, thanks @skierjp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted June 24, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2022 Everyone who owns a boat with gelcoat ought to have a rotary buffer and a gear-driven orbital and a set of wool pads, compound, foam pads, and polish. I hit my boats as needed, when needed and they pretty much always look showroom. Gelcoat is about a 1000 times thicker than paint and there is no good reason I can see to shy away from using a mechanical polish to deal with tough water spots if the vinegar mix is not working. Followed by a good wax like Collinite 925 or some sort of ceramic coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brettmainer Posted June 24, 2022 Members Share Posted June 24, 2022 The correct answer varies by region and water supply. Well fed lakes in northern CA require a jackhammer to get water spots off due to minerals brought up from the ground and fast evaporation due to low humidity. Years ago at Bell Acqua when we were river fed prior to a flood control project that ruined the river feed, water spots were a non issue. Now that we are well fed, it takes a strong acid or the aforementioned jackhammer. I skied with @dave2ball for a couple of weeks this spring in Orlando and was amazed at how clean, clear and soft his water was. I don’t think I showered the entire trip (not really, but close) and his boat just needed a towel wipe, if that. So, water spot cleaning varies by water supply and mineral content. As a side note, the best part of this sport is the friends you make. Dave’s site is fantastic and his hospitality is the epitome of what makes waterskiing and friendship in general such a great thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted June 24, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2022 @brettmainer that was good time. just call when your coming back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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