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[Dirt]

Oh I get it hes funny but needs to be slapped. @adamhcaldwell take him up on it and slap him down?

[Horton]

@dirt I do not advocate violence in this forum ( unless there's video)

[jhughes]

If Caldwell runs it in whatever aforementioned parameters, Shelby must ride a Denali for the rest of the year! ?

[Horton]

@jhughes pay retail for a C85 and ride it for the rest of the year

[scoke]

Good news for all, registration is still open!!!!

 

I verified with Mrsscoke, clean sheets on the apartment bed and clean towles. I've got Voodoo Ranger IPA and Jai-Lai, stocked in the apartment fridge. What a deal!!

 

 

 

 

[Than_Bogan]

Unrelated question: Is prerenege a word?

[Horton]

I don't think so

[scoke]

@Than_Bogan

 

Actually you gave me a great idea!!

 

Once he registers for the tourney, I'll transfer $300 to a neutral honest party to hold the cash for escrow!!! Of course I've got my own silver sharpie.

 

Do you have paypal or zelle? You could be the neutral party! Are you up for it?

 

 

[MISkier]

I'm having difficulty keeping up with the actual terms of the wager. I'm not a betting person anyway, but this is my understanding.

 

@adamhcaldwell will be considered to have run 41 off at 36 mph in 2022 if:

 

1. Rope and handle measure in tolerance.

2. Boat path (and, of course, speed/timing) are within tolerance.

3. Only R tournaments can be considered and only tournaments at Okeeheelee and only Okeeheelee tournaments on May 14, 2022 or May 15, 2022.

4. Jeff Gilbert may or may not be allowed to be the driver. An intense game of cornhole will confirm his eligibility.

5. Only low octane gas (less than 89) may be used.

6. The pass must be run within the time period of 1:01PM to 1:09PM EST, after successfully completing the preceding passes.

7. Adam's left hand must be tied behind his back during all passes.

8. No bindings are allowed. SeaDek may be adhered to the ski, upon which Adam may stand barefoot.

9. Upon Adam rounding 3 ball during the 41 off pass, the boat judge will commence shooting paintballs at him.

10. If the pass is completed, some payment involving cash, alcohol, or Beanie Babies will occur.

 

I have to admit, I don't think he can do it.

 

[Than_Bogan]

@scoke Thanks for trying to make me a part of this -- whatever "this" is -- but, no.

[Horton]

@MISkier I believe mercury must also be in retrograde

[prk]

not that i'm bored or anything but horton is in the lead with 12 post follow by scoke 7 and than bogan rounding up the top three at 5 cut line is 3

[Skoot1123]

Where’s the BBQ in this whole thing? Jai Alai and Voodoo Ranger would be quite tasty with BBQ.

[BuoyChaser]

Elon Musk marketing for https://denaliskis.com/ buyer beware, your scores will get better and your pocketbook will be heavier.

[pcmcon729]

@AdamCord Yes, 41@36 has been run at Okee before. I saw Andy run it in a record tournament in Oct 2001. Albeit, technically it may not have counted because the new 2002 Nautique that was on display on the trailer was used at his request for his last round had not been approved by USAWS yet (New Hull). He came back after that pass and got a good 1 ball, but well inside of 2 @ 43. Was pretty damn impressive to see.

[ScarletArrow]

@horton what did @jhughes do to you to earn that dig?

[Horton]

What?

[ScarletArrow]

My bad… misread your response to Joel

[KRoundy]

So, can others still get in on the bet for spirits? I’ve been ignoring this thread for a couple of days and discover that I’ve missed a lot. The entertainment value here sky-high.

[Horton]

@KRoundy good luck

[scoke]

Sorry for the delay, again, been working for the man in the salt mines. Phew.

After numerous requests and listening to the feedback, we’re going to do an exciting refresh.

Especially as I see that 41 was not run at the Swiss Pro thingy, the Masters nor any other tournament in the last 6 weeks!!!

 

To the fun part, here are the terms:

Adam Caldwell will not run 41@36 in a L-R tournament between today and Nov. 1st, 2022*

*But The Miami Pro stop on Nov. 4-6th IS NOW INCLUDED.

 

Yes Lake38 this weekend is included!!!

Yes, the BallofSpray tournament is included! Heck, I’d consider doubling the bet if someone is interested as how epic would that be if he smokes a legit 41 and makes me eat my hat at that tournament!

 

This requires a good boat path "green" at 39 and 41.

Disallows Trophy Lakes tournaments and Little Mountain Tournaments.

 

I'm laying 2.5 to 1 odds here too:

If he does complete it, I ship your house:

https://drizly.com/liquor/whiskey/scotch-whisky/oban-14-years-distillers-edition/p151976

OR

https://drizly.com/liquor/whiskey/scotch-whisky/bruichladdich-21-year-old/p31192

 

If you don’t like the above, let me know an alternative 2:1, I’m open as I don’t like scotch either.

 

If he does not complete it based on the above you owe me or similar:

https://drizly.com/liquor/whiskey/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-vanilla-flavored-whisky/p58394 1.75L bottle.

 

 

All is takes is a post of “Deal!” or “Challenge accepted” or “Handshake complete”. It’s got to be clear you accept the terms not some vague then you come back in six months saying I reneged on a wager. I’ll take anyone on except Bruce Butterfield and Than Bogan, they are excluded from the action.

 

Any of you other 32+ voters want in on the action, just post with “Deal!”

 

[Horton]

Disallows Trophy Lakes tournaments and Little Mountain Tournaments.

 

[Bruce_Butterfield]

@scoke I’m still trying to figure out if you are intentionally trolling ridiculous ideas to see what response you can get or if you are just an obnoxious asshole. Maybe we need another poll?

[lpskier]

@Bruce_Butterfield I know from personal face-to-face interactions with @scoke that he is actually a pretty darn good guy. Maybe he likes to stir the pot a little…

[Bruce_Butterfield]

@lpskier I have known scoke for years, but I’m still undecided on my prior question.

 

And there is sometimes a fine line between stirring the pot and just being an asshole.

[Horton]

100% Trolling

[6balls]

He runs it at a legit record or he doesn’t. The bet could be that easy. Why muck it up? Stakes are small here a favorite bottle? Want participation make it simple.

[Dirt]

I don’t think it’s crazy to disallow sights that you believe have a questionable reputation even if it’s from the past. It’s Scokes bet, he can make it whatever he wants.

For the record, I have a great deal of respect for Caldwell, Denali, Cord, Butterfield and Scoke.

I think Cord can run 41@36 if he would ski somewhere warm and ride the same ski with the same setup more than two sets.

 

[brettmainer]

If the two sites are currently surveyed as RC and the SurePath is green, it counts. Period.

[lpskier]

@6balls What is a “legit record?” Are there “illegit record” tournaments whose scores actually go in the books? If so, how does that work? I know the tech and drivers committees look pretty closely at all the data (and there’s lots of data) from each ELR tournament.

[Stefan]

or it’s because those lakes have wire courses and wire courses are not approved to use with Sure-Path? At least that’s the case in Europe from what I’ve heard. So lakes in Europe with wire type course can not hold record capability tournaments any more…

[LeonL]

@Stefan further describe "wire courses". If you're referring to longitudinal cable (wire) they haven't been acceptable for record capability for as long as I can remember. However, cross cable courses have been, and as far as I know still are. It's not directly related to Sure Path. The rules were clear about that prior to SurePath. Also, I m pretty sure that the sites mentioned are individual anchor. Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong on any of the above.

[6balls]

@lpskier wondering why certain sites that hold record tourneys must not be included if surveyed and a green light boat path? I never wrote anything about an illegit record tournament.

 

I'm willing to say I'm uninformed and be told why two sites don't count for @Scoke since he hasn't specified why and maybe assumes we all know--I'm admittedly not the expert on record tourney regulations or if there are problematic sites. I did help set up a record as a lackey(untrained help), but that's all I got. Skied it, watched pro's, it was fun.

 

Sure Shelby can make a bet any way he wants and see who takes it--I personally like him-- skied next to him multiple years at the skiwatch fall double. My point was that if the bet is simplied, perhaps there will be more participation(thus more fun)--the stakes are pretty small if we are talking about a bottle of liquor.

[Horton]

There are some sites that historically may have been guilty of some shenanigans. I think it's just hard to shake that reputation. In the current era if the buoys have been surveyed, sure path is in the boat, and the ropes are measured there's no reason to doubt the scores.

 

On the other hand, anytime you have officials that are willing to bend the rules you can manufacture inflated scores at any location.

[scoke]

39 votes and no "Deal!" yet! WILD.

 

The gnashing of teeth, the pitch forks and internet name calling all due to between the two sites disallowed, how many rounds is that? only 3. LOL.

 

 

 

[Dirt]

@scoke for bruce to get that mad I am guessing he’s on a Denali or used to officiate at one or more of the sights you disallowed.

I would probably take the bet if I knew Caldwell was skiing a bunch of RC rounds. He is a beast.

[Bruce_Butterfield]

@Dirt I'm not mad by any means. I was just pointing out someone who made a blanket statement and offered bets, then starts putting chickenshit restrictions out to walk back his original statement, then acting like everyone else is afraid or something.

 

He took what should have been a fun, friendly simple wager into something a trial lawyer would love.

[6balls]

I propose a bet where if those who bet Caldwell runs 41 and he does…donate $20 to St Jude and those who bet against him donate $40. If Caldwell doesn’t run it the reverse is true.

Any record tourney before November 1 counts…either way St Jude wins and Caldwell scores for charity whether he runs it or not.

I don’t necessary want to run it, but would participate. Just an outside the box idea.

[Andre]

I bet Scoke won't run 41 anywhere.

[APB]

@MISkier Yes I understand he’s run it. I’m saying running it without that nasty asterisk beside his name.

[Mastercrafter]

.... any newcomers to the 41 club?

[skialex]

I guess now the question is, who is going to be next to run it in the dark…

[MISkier]

@skialex, If you are referring to the America’s Cup, believe that was not at a full 58 kph/36 mph.

[rockdog]

More than once Joel Howley has posted on his Insta running 41 in training. If he decides to compete again he's in the top few of this list to get it done.

[rockdog]

He's done it again training at Shortline today.

[brettmainer]

I will side with @rockdog, I believe Joel Howley will run 41 at Shortline this weekend. If not, soon.

[APB]

neveau is due. id like to see dane do it again..... i thought howley had it this past weekend. so good.

[Than_Bogan]

All smart money would have to be on Joel right now! But there are definitely a few others with a chance, and I'm getting the sense that over the next 5 years or so the 41 club is going to get a LOT bigger. Good thing TWBC came along when it did!!

[prk]

the list says 15 skiers have run 41 off in the last 24 years and a good portion have only run it once there really is only one skier who runs it with any regularity i'm more interested in who can step up and run it with some regularity say 40- 50 percent of the time instead of this once in a lifetime unicorn thing

[brettmainer]

@prk, interesting post. I agree, kind of, but the “yes or no, have your run it list” is attractively binary.

 

Discounting Nate, who has proven he can run 41 anywhere, anytime, day or night (yes I know it was a little slow), there are two skiers, Freddy and Will, who can run it at any time and who have done so often in big time tournaments. Detrick and Sacha can do it and have done it (and have run 4+ many times), but seem to have health issues. If you have run 4+ many times, 6 is right there.

 

Factoring age and height, it does seem like Joel Howley is next. Skiers like multi time world champ Tgas and former WR holder CP have age working against them to be consistent runners of 41. There is a reason you don’t see any 40+ athletes at the top of the game in any major sports.

 

I think Ryan Canepa could also run 41 if he dedicated himself to Crossfit for 6 months this winter.