Baller Mose Posted January 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2022 Dumb question but is the c85 a carbon fibre ski with a PVC core doesn't seem to say on there website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 17, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted January 17, 2022 @Mose yes Carbon / PVC. Same as ALL high end skis today Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted January 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 17, 2022 @Mose yes all carbon fiber laminates and PVC core. Cores are machined in house on our CNC and skis are hand built, all at our shop in Charleston. We have a top secret layup process that makes the skis come out stronger and more consistent than other skis that we invented after rigorous testing and evaluation. Because of that no c85 has ever broken, and we have skis with 600+ sets that still flex exactly like they did from factory. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted January 17, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted January 17, 2022 If anyone in the Central Florida area would like to demo a Denali, I have a medium demo at my house. I’d love to share it. Hit me up! Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greghayes Posted January 21, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 21, 2022 Long overdue post to thank-the Adams - @AdamCord @adamhcaldwell - for shipping my C85 last month with the most up to date recommended fin setting ready to go out of the box. Measured to the .001 spot on. These guys sweat the details! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted January 22, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted January 22, 2022 @greghayes You also need to give Meg Deeley (aka Meg Deeley Deeley) some love. It’s likely she made your ski and set your fin. Meg’s da bomb. That said Adam Squared are the brains behind a great product, with more great ideas in the works. If you haven’t tried a C85, you should. If you tried a 65 or a 75 but weren’t enthused, the 85 is a completely different ski that is a lot more user friendly, and it deserves a fresh look. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greghayes Posted January 26, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 26, 2022 Thanks for the insight @lpskier - credit where it is due! Thanks Meg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ghutch Posted January 26, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 26, 2022 According to @adamhcaldwell I may be the oddball out.... While I whole heartedly agree the 85 is one great ski the 75 is probably still my favorite ski hands down. I can jump right back on it and run into my hardest line without hesitation. That ski just works for me. The 85 is still my go to ski but having a back up like the 75 is a breath of fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Adam Caldwell Posted January 26, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 26, 2022 we hated to move on from the C75...but in a quest to find the MOASS, we kept going..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller customski Posted January 30, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 30, 2022 Back to back pb’s on the 75 today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ghutch Posted January 31, 2022 Baller Share Posted January 31, 2022 @customski not surprising. Seriously.. great skiing! Man I love Denali!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted May 6, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 6, 2022 Ok kids, I need some help/input on what size C-85 to order so chime in. When I bought my C-75 I was 195lbs skiing at 32mph. I'm now 180lbs still 32mph. On a normal day run 28off, on a good day 32off, on a great day 2 or 3 balls at 35off. Haven't been seen a piece of 38off in 4.5 years. I will be 72 in July so age in starting to catch up with me. Do you think I go with a Medium or stay with the Large? Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_deel Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 @VONMAN Just shot you an email! This post pretty much gave me most of the stuff I had asked for, however height may also be a factor in the size you decide to choose! Let me know if you didn't get it, but I'll be happy to help you get the size you need :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted May 6, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 6, 2022 @vonman, email the Adam’s (edit: or Meg). My height came into play with how Caldwell sized my ski. Best to just talk to the experts. (Meg was clearly faster with the post comment than I was, and she is one of the experts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted May 6, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 6, 2022 @m_deel Got it thanks, info on it's way. Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted May 6, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 6, 2022 Weight, height and hard shell vs rubber all are in the mix, particularly is you’re on the cusp of sizes. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 13, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 13, 2022 @VONMAN I checked my fin last night just for a reference at the start of this season, my c85 is a Medium, .860 dft, 6.975 overall, 2.470 deep. wing is screws up @ 7, I'm 6' 175#, RFF, boots are the new Radars, Sequence plate, my front boot is at 28 1/8" measured to the rear of the front heel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 13, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 13, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted May 13, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 13, 2022 @RichardDoane 28 1/8"??? is that a fat finger? 28 7/8" is more normal. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted May 13, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 13, 2022 @VONMAN @Bruce_Butterfield 29” for 32 mph Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 13, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted May 13, 2022 @Bruce_Butterfield he drinks Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 14, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 14, 2022 @Horton only light beer. @Bruce_Butterfield I went to the “measure twice, cut once” school. But I went back and triple checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 14, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 14, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 14, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 14, 2022 I even had my son assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 14, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted May 14, 2022 A ) that is a terrible way to measure B ) why are you at 28? @AdamCord ????? Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted May 14, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 14, 2022 @RichardDoane ok fair enough. That is well within many of the outlier settings I have seen on prior Denalis and oddball skiers on other skis, just surprising with my experience on the C85. Curious what happened when you were closer to 28 7/8"? If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 14, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 14, 2022 I started this season with the new boots on the sequence plate. Center hole. then just moved back a hole. Makes the offside turn rip, so I'm happy. But it's good to try other settings, so next ride I'll fiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 14, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 14, 2022 @Horton what's a better way to measure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted May 14, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 14, 2022 @RichardDoane Thanks and sorry about flack. Fin numbers are what I was looking for. Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 14, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted May 14, 2022 @RichardDoane remove the back binding. Measure from the tail of the ski to the boot. in the case of the Radar boots if you don't want to remove the back one more than once - measure 12 in back from the front boot and then put a mark on the plate and then reattach your back boot. it's amazing that people let you work on their cars and boats :-) Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted May 15, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 15, 2022 Hey Ballers, VONMAN here. My C-85 arrived at my door step yesterday. It's a large and doing a compare to my C-75 it's a tad wider in the front along with the flat spot in the middle of the bottom. Side profile looks to be thinner from middle of rear boot to tail and the second break is now a smooth transition. Just my observation, Build quality and finish is top notch. The one weird thing is the screw heads on the fin clamp to ski. All six are square not phillips head screw. I know that because you don't use inserts, you didn't recommend swapping out fin block assemblies because of that. But I found that it is easy to adjust the fin by loosening three screws by a half turn on the smaller fin block it makes life a lot easier. Will be going on a houseboat trip next week so hopefully I get it all dialed in. Thanks again @RichardDoane for the fin numbers, @Horton for the Drawing and thanks to Denali for sponsoring the C-85 for Drawing. Thanks @AdamCord, @adamhcaldwell and @m_deel for the great ski you design, test and build. Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted May 15, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 15, 2022 I don't think I'm following why you would ever loosen fin block screws, but square drivers should be easy to find at any tool or hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller waterskicorey Posted May 15, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 15, 2022 Those are Robertson screws, it’s a Canadian thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted May 16, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 16, 2022 @Than_Bogan thanks, I found the bit in my toolbox. Don't remember ever have to use it before. By backing the screws a half turn I'm able to push the fin in the clamp with the caliper preset, instead of tapping on the fin because drag/friction caused my some fin blocks. If the fin moves easy after the 3 clamping screws are backed off no problem if not backing off the 3 fin block screws on one side does the trick. Just seems to work for me. Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ swbca Posted May 17, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 17, 2022 Just moved my T-Factor boots to a C85. With skiers adjusting binding positions in 16th" increments and fin settings within 1 or 2 thousandths, what about a boot that has been fabricated with the outer shell misaligned with the plate and the ski, so your ankle is pushed about 3/8" to the right of center, in effect canting the ski down on the left edge ? This is a left/right boot so symmetry is expected. D3 makes great boots; the rear boot was made correctly but front boot has outer and inner boot fabrication problems. Looking for advise. Does this matter ? Is it appropriate to ask for a product exchange ? Bought it 11 months ago and used it for 2 months. Otherwise I will probably order a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibrain Posted May 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 17, 2022 Never mind. Looked at your pics. My comment was irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted May 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted May 17, 2022 Have a Medium C85 for sale if anyone is looking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Slalom.Steve Posted May 18, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted May 18, 2022 @swbca Legitimate question, but probably deserves it's own thread, to keep this thread focused on the C85 rather than the T-Factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted June 3, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 3, 2022 @AdamCord and @adamhcaldwell First I have to apologize for not skiing the C-85 with the fin numbers as shipped. That is my normal way of starting life with a new ski. And when tuning a ski I usually deviate from stock. But life with my C-65 and C-75 was "Let's figure out what works". I think I had 4 pages of setting's for each. So to speed up fin tuning time I first skied on numbers that @RichardDoane had given me, the reason being I ended up on his numbers for my C-75 and loved them so why not. Which brings me to today. Reset the fin to stock numbers and Bingo, I now understand what @Horton was talking about easy this ski is and in control. So thanks so much taking the pain out tuning. I'm not sure I will be tweaking the fin at all after today's ride. The C-75 is officially retired. Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted June 3, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted June 3, 2022 so your final settings are ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Adam Caldwell Posted June 4, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 4, 2022 @VONMAN - We take feedback from all of you to help improve upon every design! Everyone is so unique and has so many different variables in their style, bindings and skiing environment that it makes things challenging from a design perspective. But we are getting better at it each year! We very much appreciate all the support everyone has provided over the years and hope to continue to learn more and more as we move forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted June 4, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 4, 2022 @RichardDoane I used the stock numbers for 32mph which was the exact numbers the ski was shipped. I had checked and documented them before I changed to your numbers. Front Boot 29" DFT .80 Depth 2.50 Lenght 6.80 Wing 6 degrees flat wing Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller o2bnMaine Posted June 5, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2022 I tried a c85 Medium the other week. I liked it!! But I'm not feeling stuck on my c75 Small, so I didn't pull the trigger. My wife tried the c85 Small as well. She was the reason we stopped by to try it out in the first place. Her V-Type was getting a little tired. She is the proud owner of a c85 now!! During the demo at Trophy Lakes, Meg set the ski up for me (I assume it was set to stock with front boot at 29"). I managed to tie my PB on my first (and only) pass (4@35-off/34.2mph). The ski felt very comfortable. Easy to control and totally predictable for me. Conditions were awful. We had winds and rain. Still, I managed to get a PB. It is a great ski. Thankfully, I got back on my c75 and still liked it. That would have been torture if I found I no longer liked the c75 after trying the c85. ;-) Note, Meg told me to try the medium, while I was on a small for the c75 (Front boot at 28.5"). I didn't bother getting a clear reason for this. I figure if the person who builds the ski tells me I'm a medium, then I'm a medium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ swbca Posted June 7, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted June 7, 2022 C85 Medium with stock setup, the best first impression of a ski that I have ever had. Since I restarted skiing last year after a lengthily retirement, I have had 3 new skis counting the C85. With a late Minnesota spring I can't evaluate top course performance but can tell how well balanced the ski is. Its the first ski I have had that allows me to aggressively gain speed and angle after my offside turn without being defensive to avoid going out the front approaching the wake. In my first few days of skiing this year, this ski just does what I want. No need to adapt or relearn how to work the ski on the off versus the on side. It just works. And the T-Factor bindings are easy to live with. 165lbs RFF 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ swbca Posted June 8, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted June 8, 2022 Any C85 experience or opinion on using NO WING at 30 and 32 mph. My D3 ION worked better without a wing at 32 and I have M6 friends that are good skiers not using a wing on other ski models. Obviously I can try it but others that are in better skiing shape may have some thoughts on this. (C85 Medium 165 pounds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller r_maniak Posted June 8, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2022 I know this is a long shot, but if anyone in WI/IL stateline area has one of these and shares LFF 34mph 180lb, I'd gladly trade a 6-pack for a quick ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mac Posted June 8, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2022 @r-maniak In case you didn't know, Denali has a 2-week demo program; check out the "C85 news" page on their website. Additionally, they are super helpful in "dialing in" your new ski! https://denaliskis.com/blogs/news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_deel Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 https://denaliskis.com/products/demo Here's the demo link in case anyone wants to give one a try! Be sure to put your foot forward, height, weight, max speed/line lengths in the "special instructions" section of the order form. We have a limited quantity of demos, so shoot me any questions you may have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted June 9, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted June 9, 2022 @swbca i ride a large C85 at 52k with a wing. I’ve tried it without but I like it better with. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted June 10, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2022 @m_deel Thanks for building a great ski for me! Three very short sets on it now and it just plain works, no drama. (and the carbon print top looks great too:) Skiing very cautious on a total knee replacement less than six months old and skiing very close to pre-surgery levels today. Total trust in a brand new ski is great for building confidence when I really don't want to crash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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