Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2020 Another Great ! Webcast by the team at TWBC for the Mastercraft Slalom Pro Event, fantastic for the sponsors and the sport, it has come a long way from the early days but now the commentating and with the likes of Wade Cox and others interacting with the skiers is awsome, would be great if some sports bars could be persuaded to put it up on their screens. Hats Off to Vince and the Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted October 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2020 Webcast quality was so good. From announcing to high res video to production it was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Oldkier Posted October 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2020 Great job to everyone involved with the broadcast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 24, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 24, 2020 Historically I have been tepid on the subject of webcast. I'm a changed man. These guys have made me a believer. Vince and Tony and the crew do an amazing job. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 With growth of the sport always being a hot topic, what I saw today looked like a great gateway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 TWBC quality has continued to improve exceptionally well. Recent broadcasts have been outstanding . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller coach3 Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Better than ESPN from days of old. Entertaining and informative. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Edmund Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Yes, it was an excellent webcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 The crew at TWBC continues to get better each event. We are fortunate to have such a talented group of individuals to bring coverage to our events. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted October 25, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 25, 2020 This should be picked up by a network sports station and broadcast for all to see. Excellent quality and super commentary that I think the general public would enjoy. Superb job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 I completely agree the broadcasts continue to get better and better. Great views from the boat today. Now can we work on the audio levels just a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 It is so very good! Great job to everyone at TWSB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Someone with clout really needs to write in to ESPN. I’m mean things like marble racing and Scandinavian death diving gets all kinds of air time now. That’s just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 @mbabiash You forgot cornhole... Great job from TWBC! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 25, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 25, 2020 If they can get an animated graphic showing the overhead relationship of the skier, boat, course, and rope (as it gets shorter) throughout each line length, then they would have a re-playable primer for the casual watcher to understand the sport. Explain the whole pass and the successive increase in difficulty. You can't just talk about it. You have to explain it with some visualization, especially to show the handle eventually falling short of the buoy. Throw in some stats on max speed across the wake and pounds (or, sigh, kilos) of pulling force. One thing that they need to continue is the various stats on records, etc. Some examples were immediately recognizing Manon's potential European Women's record and the Men's 3-way runoff score as the highest for that occurrence. That kind of reference adds to the excitement of the tournament. We don't need to get out of control like baseball and football do, though. I don't think we care that it's the 12th time someone has run 39 off while wearing blue swim trunks. All in all, they keep getting better and better. I even thought the commercials were cool and it was nice that they were short little filler blips during the action, rather than a lengthy cutaway that made you miss something. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Alberto Soares Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Had some non skiing friends at home Saturday, they loved watching the webcast and quickly understood the rules, great job !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted October 25, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 25, 2020 Be great to see the boat path in lower corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 The sports bar thing appeared at a local joint where I live in Sweden. They had Swiss Pro Slalom on the screens. No idea how that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 It’s particularly cool to see your name on “national” tv as you have won a D3 ski of your choice! Thanks TWBC! Psyching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JeffSurdej Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Help make sure we can get TWBC to do Narionals in 2021. https://www.gofundme.com/f/webcast-of-2021-goode-nationals?utm_medium=sms&utm_source=product&utm_campaign=p_susi-sms-weeklysummary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Great job again TWBC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DonT Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 TWBC is fantastic. I love Tony, Wade and the others with the job they do, from commentary to video quality. I would have a bit of a concern that moving to a network, while potentially providing a cash infusion, might distract and consequently lose some of the focus that Tony and crew have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Could it be boiled down to a 60 minute show for a TV broadcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Minelickskier Posted October 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2020 Yes they made it very enjoyable to watch...I stayed glued to it most of the week end! Thanks to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier Luzz Posted October 26, 2020 Elite Skier Share Posted October 26, 2020 If you are already missing their voice or want to hear their story, here's the people behind TWBC and Wade :smiley: Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wawaskr Posted October 26, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 26, 2020 Great Job TWBC! One small thing I would like to see added is the line length shown on the REPLAY flag. It is initially shown when the skier pulls out for the pass, but when the replay is shown it is not listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 26, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted October 26, 2020 I do wonder if a chain of sports bars took it onboard, and various people like of budweiser or others were shown footage they could use it in adverts or promote their beer etc, in the sports bars. TWBC could be the saviour of water skiing, we needed people with more personalties to move forward, personalties were starting to show through during the webcast, with everybody willing to contibute, exciting times, if the team can keep this thing going, I forsee great opportunities. If people are prepared to sit and watch 60+ laps of F1 racing, surely the sport of water skiing has a bit more to offer, entertainment wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted October 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2020 Awesome job, every time by TWBC. I would be ok with future broadcasts only noting rope length in meters versus feet and inches "missing", and having to explain. All metric, 2021! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 27, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 27, 2020 @Zman I get a lot of shit for talking feet off and not metric. If you ski L tournaments chances you are you know the metric but much of America still thinks in feet off. If you want to alienate potential fans do all know metric. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted October 27, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just an observation on line length, stateside both metric and feet off are confusing to non tournament (new) skiers or observers (fans, friends, family). A shame that actual length in feet is not the US standard (watch the Coors light Michigan clip) which makes the explanation of line length relative to buoy distance from center easy to grasp. TWBC does do a great job on the broadcast, keep up the excellent work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted October 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2020 My wife watched most of the Swiss pro and all slalom rounds of the MC Pro. She is not a skier any more, her interest in skiing has faded and stoped skiing about 7 years ago. She watched with a genuine interest, commented on skiers and their style and she even asked me what “safety check” is ?. I wasn’t expecting this, so TWBC must be doing something that does look interesting and not only to skiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted October 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2020 If only the rope had colored sections,we could just call "...he's on the green loop..." My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 Your water ski broadcast coverage Rocks! Thank you Vincent and the whole crew at TWBC for all your hard work! Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 As long as us Americans confuse the issue I guess TWBC just needs to speak to all of us and use both..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LLUSA Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 @Horton it needs to stay in feet, the vast majority of the audience is in the USA, Tony's accent on 13 meters makes it sound like 30 meters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TonyLightfoot Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 If you are in doubt there's always a graphic in the top left corner prior to each pass with all of that info - metric, feet and even rope color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 28, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2020 @LLUSA I think that Tony has come to a pretty good mix of metric and Imperial. The thing that gets forgotten is there are so many skiers who haven't skied tournaments for year's or never ski tournaments. A large percentage of them do not understand the metric and so an event without the Imperial has to be unwatchable or at least confusing. If the point of the webcast is to be entertaining to the widest group of people the Imperial is necessary. I confess it is probably a bad thing but most Americans outside of Florida still think in feet off. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 28, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2020 As a side note I sometimes wonder if this is how @TonyLightfoot feels about it. https://www.instagram.com/p/CE7JZaZH3ua/?igshid=qwtl15zvwu0l Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 Personally, I think that Tony does a GREAT JOB offering both measurements. After all it is a World Wide audience. It is also educational for those that haven't correlated the two. After all, if my Very Old feeble, alcohol soaked brain can understand it, anybody can !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 Florida is metric when it comes to skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 @skierjp @ScottScott @Zman What size ski are you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 I would’ve been up for the metric system if it was base 12. Instead we take a step back to go metric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 But imperial uses base 8, base 12, base 16, base 24, base 36, base 64, base 5280.... just about everything but the easiest....base 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 Doesn't divide by three we should’ve had six fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier Freddie Winter Posted October 29, 2020 Elite Skier Share Posted October 29, 2020 It makes far more sense to measure something in terms of how much shorter it is than another length that you aren’t stating. This type of easy to understand talk is what will bring water skiing to the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted October 29, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2020 While I agree that it makes a lot more sense to relate how long the rope is instead of how much rope is coiled up on the floor I can understand why current skiers would prefer the line length to be relayed in "feet off" because that is how most of them think. As others have mentioned, an interesting way to announce line length was the "feet on" method used during some of the ProTour years in the 80s/90s. While this made a lot of sense to the general public, it is extremely confusing for skiers. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted October 29, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2020 @Drago 168 And, before snow skis went parabolic, I skied on 204s and 207s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 29, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted October 29, 2020 I do think for the general public or those not familar with line lengths, that the length of the rope would be easier to get your head around , rather than how much of the rope is missing, this could still be done in feet, the metric system already accomodates this, to help people to understand there needs to be change, nobody likes change but it maybe necessary. Whether it,s metric or feet doeen,t matter, what matters that people can grasp the concept and difficulty of not having as much rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted October 29, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2020 @zman I was thinking that when I converted my 67" ski to the 170....that number is fairly familiar. Then it occurred to me.....snow skis in the states have been sized in metric going back to the days FORTY YEARS AGO when I had snow skis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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