Baller dbaconaz Posted July 8, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 8, 2020 Looking at each of these ski's. Pro's, Con's Overall impression of each!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted July 9, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2020 I have not been on the D3 but I was lucky and got a 2020 vapor in aug 2019 at 55 years old started running -35 again using the deep short settings Great ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted July 9, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2020 Like above, can only comment on the Vapor. Best Vapor since the 2016. More forgiving and faster. Super automatic turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted July 9, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2020 I recently got the Vapor to demo. Have only tried the long shallow fin setting so far. It has tons of speed and turns very well with the tip of the ski staying down. Hang on, cuz it will take you for a ride. First time out of the box it got me into ‘32@34. Did a couple back to back ‘32@32 as well. There is a lot to this ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted July 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2020 I love Radar skis.. but the D3 Ion is lighting up competitive skiing. Nate is crushing it. Freddie is throwing up 41s regularly. The women's one skier served record on it. Worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller simonz Posted July 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2020 I have been on Radar since 2016 model currently on 2018 with access to a 2020. Radar 2020 is a good ski but did not give me any more buoys- so no change in 2019/2020. So I was thinking of waiting for the Radar 2021 model comes out. Opertunity Came up to test D3 NGR Evo and the ION. The ION had the speed of the Radar but far more predictable and I felt I came out of my 1 3 5 side with angle I could control Far better than my current set up. I need another test but I suspect the ION could be the best ski I have been on to date. It’s that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted July 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2020 @simonz RFF or LFF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2020 D3's skis are so user friendly right out of the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Minelickskier Posted July 13, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2020 These seem to be good comparisons and an interesting thred...anybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 15, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 @Jordan I'm seeing all kinds of great things about ION. Think I might have to pull the trigger!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 15, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 @Minelickskier What are you skiing on currently? Have you tried either of these skies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Minelickskier Posted July 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2020 Dbaconaz, I currently ski on a pro build and really like it and am intrigued by the Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGerald3 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Great demo program with D3, Will Bush is awesome to deal with! Try em out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted July 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2020 What's the general consensus on which Ion is the best for most skiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 16, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 16, 2020 @ballsohard you talk with D3 via messenger on the website! They are very helpful and get you into the ION or ION-S based on what you tell them about your skiing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lkb Posted July 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2020 Is there a way to demo the radar if you don’t live near Performance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 16, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 16, 2020 @lkb Its my understanding that right now they do not have and vapor pro's to demo in a 67". Not sure about the other size's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 24, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 24, 2020 UPDATE... I went with the ION-S. Had my first set on it today and WOW! this ski is amazing! Can't wait to get it all dialed in!! Lookout new PB is coming!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Minelickskier Posted July 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2020 @dbaconaz are you skiing stock settings? What length? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 24, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 24, 2020 @Minelickskier yes currently at stock settings, however the ski is a bit on the large sized for me 67" so I did move the boots forward 1/8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted July 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2020 I don't think "VS" is asking the right question, Radar and D3 have different design philosophies. It's up to personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted July 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 24, 2020 @jhughes Can you talk to that? Would one be better than the other for a skier who cant seem to unload the rear foot enough (even though that is wrong)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted July 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 25, 2020 @dbaconaz as a reference do you mind saying what ski you were on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted July 26, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted July 26, 2020 @Bill22 I was on a Duvall 900s, I know its an older ski, however I have been trying out as many ski's as I could get my hands on. This ION-S out of the box was hands down the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 26, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 26, 2020 https://m.facebook.com/D3Skis/videos/563594157645398/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted July 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2020 A bud wants a new vapor....what's the dif between the silver and gold pro build....nothing but color? I can't find it on website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted July 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2020 @liquid d the only difference is colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2020 @liquid d one makes you look like a Persian as the boys from Top Gear would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Minelickskier Posted July 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2020 @liquid d that is a good one! You got a like from me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted July 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2020 I may have a silver Vapor Pro Build for sale 67" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeprunc Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Bump. Interested in any D3 updates. I'm just an average Joe looking for the next ski. I've been on Radars for the last three skis. Currently 2018 Vapor Pro. I ski 34.2 -22 and -28 (starting to see -32 this year.) D3 NRG and ION have appealed to me to maybe replace the radar. I like the speed of the Vapor, especially the ability to make a mistake and get back into the pass. But seems to be less predictable on my turns (I'm sure its 99% skier fault). I have a tendency to stand on the tail on my harder passes, or later in my set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buoyboy1 Posted August 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2020 @Joeprunc I skied a vapor from '14 to '16 and have been on the D3 NRG now NRG R-1 ever since. I too tend to ride the tail and my turns are much more consistent especially on my offside. I also tried the ION but went back to the NRG R-1 after 8 sets. It tolerated moving around on the ski and a bit of tail riding better. You will find the D3's really stick well in the turn, very predictable, but just not quite as fast but they do seem to build angle even though you might not have a lot of angle coming off the turn. PM me if you need more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pregom Posted August 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2020 A few questions. Is the NRG (NRG R1) wider than the ION (ION-S), and is the EVO wider than the NRG? Am I right in thinking that the D3 line of skis goes from ION at the top end to NRG to EVO at the bottom end, similarly to Radar skis where Vapor, rated up to 36 mph, is at the top end and then the Senate, rated up to 34 mph, comes next? When I look at the D3 size chart, I'm confused as all their skis seem to be rated up to 36 mph. What do Freddie Winter and Nate Smith use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted August 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2020 @pregom The ION, ION-S and NRG R1 are all top of the line skis. The EVO/EVO-S is also a top of the line ski, it's just the model that got replaced by the ION and ION-S. Freddie used to use the 66" NRG R1 and now he uses the 67" ION. Nate used to use the 67" EVO and now he uses the 67" ION-S but with the red ION graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buoyboy1 Posted August 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2020 I measured the ION and NRG R1 and the R1 was .075 wider at the front inserts. I thought it would have been wider the way the two skis feel. Might be wider in other locations but never checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted August 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2020 Nate is on the Ion S with the red Ion graphics. Rumour is that he is putting up insane scores in practice. There haven't been a ton of tournaments so we haven't seen it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OSSKI Posted August 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2020 Insane? What are we talking? Have always thought if he can get to 3 ball @43 in a tournament, maybe he's been to 4 in practice... www.swervetracker.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted August 29, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2020 @OSSKI .....he has skied 4 ball in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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