NEW PROSTAR??????????

[skimtb]

@pregom They are selling tickets at the dealer. I think tickets are $75k + each but your odds of winning are REALLY good!

[swc5150]

Ha, you never know...demand for them might make getting a build slot seem like a raffle?!

[Skoot1123]

All I know - when the time is right I know I want one!

[pregom]

@skimtb - thanks for the tip! you are right, the odds seem indeed really good, close to 100%, I'd say... that's amazing... :smile:

[GSchmid]

That red/black and tan is a great combo! It may be time to retire the SN 196 and move to Mastercraft. Will all the promos next year be 6.2 DI?

[Horton]

@GSchmid Unless you are jumping over 230 feet or at high altitude the 6.2L is unnecessary in the ProStar. The 6.0L is awesome and much less expensive.

[shufflehuff]

@Horton Its possible I missed it in this thread, but is there a price list, or build order form that is public yet?

[BraceMaker]

https://www.mastercraft.com/assets/boat/35.pdf

 

Their website is sort of silly in that this big Resources heading is a collapsed menu for those links where as all the other similar links are already dropped down.

 

 

[vtmecheng]

This boat is proof that money can buy happiness, so long as you spend it on skiing.

[shufflehuff]

@BraceMaker Thanks. You're right. The website is strange to navigate. I would of never seen that or clicked on resources. Thanks.

[theboardingschool]

@BraceMaker @shufflehuff the website is going through an overhaul, so all of this is temporary and the boat builder will be updated. Hold tight!

[BraceMaker]

@theboardingschool wasn't concerned just wanted to make sure he could find it ;)

[jjackkrash]

On the website, it says trailer included in base price, then lists single and double axle trailer as options on the .pdf. as $7k and $9k options respectively. I am curious which is accurate, as I assume MC is not tossing in a trip axle as the base trailer.

[skierjp]

@Horton wondering which engine will be in the Promo Boats?

[swc5150]

My dealer said the price list just shows everything ala carte, and to basically just ignore the trailer info, since I go single axle anyway.

[swc5150]

That red on ran color combo is sweet. I wonder how tan interior will stand the time test, as I’d definitely now consider it?

[Andre]

@swc5150

Post your choices we'll let you know how we like it!

You're going with tan or grey SeaDeck?

[Horton]

@skierjp I think it is up to the local Promo coordinator / dealer. As I said somewhere else the 6.0 is the a lot less expensive and the 6.2 is just unnecessary & extravagant unless you jump over 230 or are at high altitude. I think @FWinter will tell you the 6.0 is plenty strong for him to run 41 off.

[skierjp]

@Horton I understand, the boat I drove had the 6 liter and was fine. The one thing I like that we did at Nautique was make all the boats 6.2 this way even at high altitudes everyone had the same engine and you don’t have tournaments requesting a engine that is not in the area. 1 engine just made it so much easier to build and schedule Promo boats,

[Horton]

@skierjp I can't formulate a reply to your comment that is not snarky or off-topic.

[mbabiash]

I love the 6.0 but I will say that the 2020 on our lake which is just shy of 1900 feet has a hard time getting to 36 before the greens with the 4 blade.

Our 2021 gets here soon and curious if it’s the same. We have 3 blade on 2020

[swc5150]

@Andre they need to get that design builder in the site rolling:). We plan on putting one through it’s paces next before potentially ordering.

[epnault]

I would need to try the 6.0 before buying. We have a 6.2 now at roughly sea level in WI and love it so much. So much fun to drive, animal. I mostly course ski but also like to barefoot long line and I am not a small dude.

[jjackkrash]

The 6.2L also supposedly weighs less, although I am having a hard time finding actual weight specs. But IIRC its around 200 lbs less, which is a full person less in the boat.

[DanE]

200 lbs less doesn't sound plausible.

It's just the engine block that's supposed to be that much lighter? Internals and cylinder heads should weigh about the same.

[jjackkrash]

@DanE I'd love to find some real specs, and I'll defer to them. It seems like that information would be put there and public.

[epnault]

Weight is a another benefit of the 6.2. At the time of my purchase it was listed at 125lbs less versus the cast iron 6.0. This was another factor in my decision.

 

[DW]

Engine only specs can be found on GM Powertrain / Marine site.

[nblasi]

Unofficial numbers by my research

 

6.0L 373hp 550lb torque 278kw

6.2L 431hp 660lb torque 321kw

 

PCM 6.2L 390hp 623lb torque 291kw

 

Kw is only certified advertised numbers

 

 

[Horton]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCUQ_-ZBwgQ/?igshid=19a2hg8k2tadu

[JackQ]

As the 6.2 is Direct Injection, I would personally prefer the 6.0. DI has proven to have reliability and maintainability issues in the automotive world. Auto manufactures have gone to DI for slightly better emissions, and fuel economy, but not having fuel pass by the intake valve has been problematic. Some of the soon to be released next generation engines with have both DI and MPI, and surely will be a nightmare to diagnose/repair.

[Andre]

@Horton Beautiful boat !Love the turn bouy orange and even more the grey SeaDeck which look way better then tan IMO.

[jimski]

I can’t get the engine box transformer comparison out of my head every time I look at this boat

[UWSkier]

I don't think it's 200 lbs lighter. I thought the block was 80ish lbs lighter.

 

Question for anyone in the know... does the DI engine use variable valve timing in marine form or is that only for land-based vehicles? @DW do you know? With the torque curve these things are putting down, it almost seems they have to.

[DW]

Correct on weight difference, aluminum block differential is ~ 80 lbs over a cast iron one, my aluminum SBC is an 80 lb savings over the cast iron one.

 

@UWSkier - Yes, VVT is part of the marine version along with Active Fuel Management.

 

[jjackkrash]

80 lbs. is something, but not as much savings as I had heard before. But, thanks for the info @DW.

[swc5150]

@Horton Any chance you could snap a pic of the new tiller connection for us? Some video of sharp turns would be awesome as well.

[DW]

With VVT, DI and some displacement hopefully they will look at spinning them a little slower, would be nice to creep back towards the 100:1 ratio of years gone by:-) It does take a lot of power to push the wider hulls down the course.

[UWSkier]

AFM on these things too? I can't imagine any possible scenario where AFM is shutting down cylinders on a boat with the load those engines see.

[skierjp]

If it did I would disable it like I did on my ZO6

[DW]

No load at idle so could be of benefit there given % of time ski boats do that. Under load for sure give me all 8 and a power happy AF ratio.

[MISkier]

It seems to me that there were complaints of AFM leading to oil consumption because the lubrication from fuel was not present continually in those cylinders and a sudden activation of the cylinder sort of scorched everything.

 

I disabled AFM on my Suburban with a Range Technologies device that plugs into the OBD II port.

[skimtb]

@DW Great point. When dropping at course ends, boat is probably above idle 1/3 of the time max ?

[UWSkier]

At least on my 2016 Denali, AFM is never active at idle. Only when I'm in motion. It always idles in V8 mode. Maybe the new ones are different, but I'd imagine things might get a little lumpy at idle without all 8 firing.

[Horton]

You guys are putting me to sleep. Nobody knows what you are talking about. I'm going to have to get some video of the new boat out as soon as possible so we can get back on topic.

[UWSkier]

Manly, engine stuff isn't for everyone. Even when it's the heart of a DD inboard.

[RAWSki]

SO true @UWSkier Engine stuff used along with 9 speed transmissions and active aero-dynamic vehicles don't always translate to fixed-gear hydro-tractors.

[Andre]

@Horton

Just pics of your new promo would be great! Love the color.

[jjackkrash]

Boats don't "coast" like cars, so I don't see any place for AFM.

[slow]

The new boat’s been out for two weeks. We need to see some more videos!!!