Baller Dacon62 Posted June 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2020 Where are the rear seats and how do they fit/work? Nice to see cup holders for the driver and passenger located lower and out of the sun more. Finally a tune-able rudder! Very nice revision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted June 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2020 @FWinter great podcast helped me clean my garage Sunday. I like the decadence because the schmoo drops through then you can roll it up and vacuum the corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ironhorse Posted June 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2020 They need to update the boat builder. With my 2020 being bumped and a 2021 replacing it, I have some color layouts to figure out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier Freddie Winter Posted June 24, 2020 Elite Skier Share Posted June 24, 2020 @Dacon62 rear seats are lighter, cheaper and comfier. They're less sharp and metallic than the old ones which is better for keeping the interior and moving them around. I was riding around the lake sitting at the back very comfortably this morning. Real nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanh Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 If you want to talk about overdoing it on the seadek let's change the discussion to the ski nautique. I'm a huge nautique fan but the latest gen ski nautique has just way to much going on. This new prostar is a beautifully simple(in today's era) boat. Imo the areas where they did use seadek are simply wear points that are using it as protection. They focused on the details and didn't over do it with frills and edgy lines. The cockpit is unbelievably sleek looking. Even tho touch screens scare me 20 years down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted June 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2020 Missing an upholstered motor box....the times they are a changin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller theboardingschool Posted June 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2020 @ironhorse They are completely re-doing boat builder, so it is going to be a few weeks. But, it will function a lot better, so it will be worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScarletArrow Posted June 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2020 Looks like a quick release mechanism for the tower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller blagrata Posted June 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 24, 2020 The current version of the Prostar has a quick release @ScarletArrow (although there is a wire for the light on the tower that they didn't put a coupler in). Looks to be the same tower and mechanism. Makes sense... current tower is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller brody Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 I dont like the seadek. It sounds like I’m not alone. At least it’s not over kill like the SN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Really like it over-all. The options of flooring is great so no one can complain about carpet sea-deck etc. Glad the airflow has been improved with the new Motorbox. Curious if the redesign will increase cockpit noise? The color and paint schemes work The new screen was needed to keep up with Nautique. Tune-able rudder and revised connection tiller point---- thank you!! Can't wait to see+feel how the hull tweaks work Overall it Looks awesome and I look forward to skiing and and driving it. The price-point ---- excellent!! I hate to say this but, ------ A 4th tracking fin?? Kind of reminds me of the vented and winged rudder of the late 90's ProStars. Is it supposed to reduce the side to side pivot-slide feeling with short line skiers? When does the boat get AWSA approved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmskiboat Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 As someone who just got their 2020 (bought last fall but went into storage right away) I kinda wish we had waited. Not totally as I love our boat but it looks like this one has a much cleaner inside from the cockpit and around the boat in general. Since we use our boat for cruising the quitier engine and perhaps no need for the extra cooling fan would be very nice also. I like the design of the engine box but when I look at the fwinter pic I cannot help but think of Transformers with the rear MC logo. Looks like a great update and not an easy thing to do with such a great last version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @RAWSki the engine box is sealed with a gasket in an indentation and no longer has the constant blower motor. The new boat should actually be significantly quieter than the previous generation. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dnewton Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Is the 4th tracking fin equivalent to the 4th axle on the monster wakeboat trailers? On a serious note. Boy this thing looks nice. I don’t use the additional “cooling” fan on my 14 and have never had a problem. Surprised by everyone still using it. Also never felt the need for more gas storage, but maybe for tournament and school use it will help? Is the hull completely different? Can we expect a better wake? I mean I don’t understand how it gets any better than the existing, but had to ask. Great job mastercraft!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @theboardingschool , @FWinter Could you guys provide insight on this? "Elimination of steering clevis creates direct connection for more responsiveness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @swc5150 The clevis was a part in the linkage that connected the rudder to the steering cable and ultimately to the steering wheel. In the previous generation hull this part created some slop or play in the steering especially after the boat was "broken in." By removing this part the rudder is now more directly connected to the steering wheel which will result in more responsive steering. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Rumour has it that it tracks like freight train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Should get a lot of feed back about tracking and wakes Friday/Saturday after the demo day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Looks like they nailed this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier Freddie Winter Posted June 25, 2020 Elite Skier Share Posted June 25, 2020 @swc5150 Mr Broussard kind of nailed this one. Long story short, between the extra fin, the new 80 inch lines on the hull, the tuneable rudder and the removal of the clevis, this thing drives exceptionally. It holds in the water even when heavy skiers pull from high up on the boat but allows the driver the input they need to provide a good pull. Probably my favourite new feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmskiboat Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @Broussard The engine box updates are great. The removal of the fan alone would be helpful but a seal would must help even more. It does look like the bow seating has seating updated, I assume the space is the same? Is the change just cosmetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster88 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Wow, Phenom! Can’t wait to hear more reviews on tracking / drivability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmskiboat Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Even small details like the front cleats being more forward are great. The side profile lines are also much cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 The starting MSRP actually went down around $10k from last year, according to MC's site. I wonder if it's a more bare-bones base model? They need to post post the standard/options list...and more vids:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 25, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 25, 2020 COVID economy rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller The_Krista Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @swc5150 the Standards and Options PDF is available at the bottom of the page under the resources section (directly after boat gallery and before the lifestyle images) https://www.mastercraft.com/prostar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @The_Krista Thanks! It appears that the removable rear seats are just the bases now, with the backrests built into the deck? Is that accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster88 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Bow seating was optional on my ‘14 as was the bow lid. Has the bow seating gone standard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 25, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2020 @sodbuster88 yes bow seats have been standard for last few years. I sat through a training seminar on Tuesday and I forget exactly what the changes are but they have redesigned that bow seating. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Unless I'm missing something, I optioned out a '21 from the price list in a similar setup to my prior '15, and the MSRP is actually less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ironhorse Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @swc5150 I just did the same thing compared to my 2020 order and came up with a substantially lower price as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 3mustskiteer Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 the 6.2L upgrade was $15,010 in 19, now $11,160 interesting. Looks like some stuff on the list is more while some is less $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Maybe MC also heard the cries for a more "budget-friendly" boat? Still big money of course, but no where even close to a new SN. Not that I could afford one of those anyway, but it seems like the justification for one maybe just got a lot harder? Strictly talking bang for the buck, not brand bashing (Nautiques are fantastic obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @3mustskiteer Remember that the base engine in 2019 was a 5.7 L engine so the upgrade was from a 5.7 to a 6.2. In 2020 and 2021 the base engine is a 6.0 L so the upgrade is from a 6.0 to a 6.2. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddyKrueger Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 @swc5150 the rear pads you see come standard with the boats. If you order the rear seats you also get the pads and if you want to pull out your seats you can slip the pads back in. And yes- wee started working on this Prostar before the new Ski Nautique and pricing was ever released. The group of athletes, promo drivers, dealers and ski school owners As well as Mastercraft management agreed that the sport was looking for maximum performance that is more budget friendly. So every addition, every improvement and every component had to be justified to meet that goal. We hope you approve. Freddy Krueger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 25, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2020 @FreddyKrueger Congratulations for hitting it out of the park. I can hardly wait to ski it, drive it and then get one at my dock. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BMG73 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Not sure if someone already asked but are the rear storage boxes still present? It appears to be solid in the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller theboardingschool Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @BMG73 there are still rear storage boxes. They open up gull wing stile towards the rubrail, so that's it's easier to access from inside the boat or the platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller HMan66 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 The standards and options PDF. https://mastercraft.com/assets/boat/35.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster88 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 @BMG73 i noticed the same thing....didn’t see any latches. Maybe you reach under the edge of the lids . I see a shadow where there might be a recess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bdecker Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Has the weight changed substantially? We’ve tested a 2020 at our site and the 6.0 was absolutely sufficient whereas the 5.7 was not on the short setup. Malibu with a 6.0 was also a challenge on our short setup. Can’t wait to ski and drive one soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 The rear compartments open to the side now, as far as I've read, so it's safe to assume those little indents are grab points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller elr Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Anything for trick skiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TEL Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 25 hrs and counting till my test drive and ski, can't wait. With all these question why does MasteCraft not do a boat over view on the trailer showing how everything works in detail. Like the you tube videos Nautique does. They keep putting out life style videos I thing we live it don't need to sold on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller theboardingschool Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @sodbuster88 you're right. There is a recess there. @Bdecker weight is the same. The 6.0 is great in this boat. One end of our place is short and we had no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Love it ! Ill buy one only if it fits on my lift witout moving my bunks. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier Freddie Winter Posted June 25, 2020 Elite Skier Share Posted June 25, 2020 @TEL a full boat run down of the key features from the one and only @FreddyKrueger is coming in the next few days. I'll be seeing you tomorrow to go over everything from front to back but maybe a little less eloquently ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sethro Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 Doug at The Liquid Edge in Illinois got one in last night. https://www.facebook.com/THE-LIQUID-EDGE-28904193162 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 If you are on FB, The Liquid Edge has quite a few pics and some “unboxing/unwrapping” Video up on their page. https://www.facebook.com/28904193162/posts/10157662308068163/ *Edit* @Sethro beat me to it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted June 25, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2020 @HMan66 Thanks for posting that. Does anybody know if the tower price is lower than it used to be? It seems like it used to cost more than that for a tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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