Administrators Horton Posted June 6, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 6, 2020 Ok seriously Buford is almost ready for one ski and she mostly kicks me with her Left foot. The old rule is dominate foot forward. Starting out does this really matter? Is anyone really sure it would be bad for me to "make" her RFF? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted June 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2020 Doesn't matter. Either way you lose ski time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted June 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2020 I wish I had my dominant foot forward, but don't think I want to try to change at this point (not that I'm that far down the line, but I would probably lose a couple months of what will hopefully be progress....but would I progress more long term if I had my dominant foot forward....?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted June 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2020 As a southpaw forced to live in a right-handed world I'm pretty sensitive to forcing hand/foot dominance on someone. Let her do what comes naturally and let the chips fall where they may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PatM Posted June 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2020 I would more than likely kick you with my right foot, but I'm left foot forward. Not exactly a world beater though so take it for what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted June 6, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 6, 2020 3 onside turns. Let her be LFF, if it is the natural stance for her. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted June 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2020 If she kicks you with her left foot ,it's because she plented her right foot down first. RFF. My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wawaskr Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 Buy her a wakeboard! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimski Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 I’m LFF and kick with right, what’s the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jnan66 Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 Let her stand relaxed on the floor with her eyes closed. When you give her a mild push in the back she will by automatic put the "natural" leg forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Taperflex Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 I’ve always called it “right foot forward “ and “correct foot forward “. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 Have her run and jump, like an olympic long jump or shooting a layup, which ever foot she jumps off is the front foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimski Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 Why don’t you just let her ski trying each foot forward and see where she’s more comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rfa Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 Maybe hard data has the answer, but i believe, balance and "dominant" foot do not necessarily go together. (if all 41 off skiers ski dominant foot forward, then I stand corrected). I ski LFF but no ambiguity about my "dominant" foot...played pretty high level soccer for many years, so I "know" my dominant foot (right). My left footed son skis LFF, and my right footed son skis RFF. They "chose" their stance at early ages (5ish), while I started at 40. But we are not 41 off skiers by a looong stretch of rope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 Sometime, quietly walk up behind her and gently push her forward. Which ever leg she moves forward to catch herself....that is her dominant foot. Works every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller elr Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 I had my son get up on a wakeboard before one ski - he went R, L, R, and then settled on L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 7, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted June 7, 2020 @markn yeah I keep doing that and can't get her to use her right :-) Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 It's all about how she jumps on a skateboard. And if she pushes it while her planted foot is on the rear of the skateboard, she's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted June 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2020 @liquid d Thats how I rode a skateboard. And, I know I'm weird. Right foot on the back of the board, pushed with my left, then rode left forward) I know I'm right foot dominant, which is probably why I pushed with the right foot balancing on the board, just goofy in how I stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bsmith Posted June 8, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2020 @Horton She mostly kicks with her left foot and every time you try the push test, she catches herself with her left foot. Seems pretty clear that she should be a LFF skier. It sounds like you are in denial on this. Why do you want her to be a RFF skier so badly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 8, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted June 8, 2020 @bsmith LFF is just backwards Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 8, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 8, 2020 If she’s a lefty she must have no @Horton in her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted June 8, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2020 @horton...LFF seems to work pretty well for THE TOWER! Like the old Beatles song.."Let it be". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted June 8, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 8, 2020 @horton what foot forward is Gallagher ? maybe she's smart and taking after her mother ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidP Posted June 8, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2020 If she balances (balance beam, slack line etc) on one foot, which foot is she better with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7455 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Horton, last years World champions LFF, Joel Howley and Manon Costard, maybe not so bad a thing. 3 onside turns, seems more and more new skiers are LFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JackQ Posted June 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2020 Be happy and support her. Being left foot should mean you have three good turns: 1,3,5 RFF only have two; 2 &4 a good turn at 6 does help much. Unless you are like I am, RFF and 1,3,5 are my better turns my 2 &4 are poor. I think that is because I get more practice (3 turns vice 2) and #1 is particularly important. Old school, get behind you subject, ask them to stand with their feet shoulder width apart, bend their knees and then when they don't expected it, give them a good shove in back, forward. Which ever foot they put forward so they don't fall is their dominate foot and I have them use as their front foot, or tell them to drop the ski on the other when learning to ski on one ski. Try it, you would be surprised how effective it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakecuz23 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Have her ride a bike and tell her to stand up on the pedals. Whatever pedal she puts forward to stand up on the bike is that same as what foot she skis with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted June 10, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 10, 2020 Hand / foot dominance is a very individual thing and forcing the opposite will at best be very difficult and at worst be an absolute disaster. There are a very small percentage of people who are effectively ambidextrous, either naturally or with a lot of practice, but the vast majority of people have very definite natural hand/foot strengths. Babies start showing hand dominance well before they are a year old. I had a college kid skiing with us (32/-15ish and basic tricks) who looked really awkward and offbalance in slalom and really struggling with tricks. Trying a simple back almost always resulted in catching the tail and nasty backsplat. Slalom wasn’t much better with stiff legs, tail riding and OTFs. After watching for a dozen sets, I started thinking he needed to switch his feet. Without telling him my suspicion, we went back to the dock and I told him to do a 1 leg squat. With the leg he had forward, the squat was very shaky and off balance. Repeat with same result. Ok, try the other leg (the one that was back) – way smoother and controlled. Next I walked behind him and gave him a quick shove and sure enough he stepped forward with the back leg. So the switch was on! Within a few sets, he was noticeably more comfortable and balanced on both slalom and trick skis. In a month or so, he was back where he was performance wise, but much more stable, consistent and without the nasty falls. So, use all the tricks mentioned and have Buford do the skier salute with both legs and see what works better. If she’s a lefty roll with it. I still believe LFF is an advantage for slalom. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member PUoldmaid Posted June 10, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted June 10, 2020 I am right handed, right foot dominant. My dad was LFF. He taught me LFF slalom as perhaps that is what made the most sense to him. To even screw with me more - I was taught to trick (and still do) RFF by another coach. And switching them up now feels so bizarre to me. So, I think you can work with whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MarkM Posted June 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2020 I'm Right Handed/Right footed. Left foot forward skier, Lefty hockey player, Lefty batter, Righty tennis player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kimbymon Posted June 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2020 I am left handed, ski RFF, but play all other sports right handed. I know very few RFF skiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GaryJanzig Posted June 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2020 Andy Mapple was right foot forward. Cory Pickos is left foot forward. Much to do about nothing. Go with the one that feels more natural. I am left foot forward, and my brother is right foot forward. Stand up and tie your shoes while standing on one leg. Which ever one you have better balance should be forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rico Posted June 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2020 This is terrible, She has to be RFF to ski with us. Did you do the scooter test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2020 @Rico She will have a far less chance pulling a Rico in a tournament being LFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bsmith Posted June 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2020 Besides the likely benefit of getting more buoys from being LFF, there is also a nice benefit if she plays soccer left footed. Most soccer players are right footed so when they defend a left footed player they automatically assume their opponent is right footed. This makes it easy for the left footed soccer player to fake right, go left and then shoot hard with the left foot. In kids soccer, it takes a while for the defender kids to really get in their minds how to defend a left footed attacker. And if your daughter plays defense, coaches will love to have her play left back because she can shield the ball with the right side of her body while being able to make an accurate down the line pass with her dominant foot. Only a few kids on any team will have that left foot advantage in defense. Of course, all good soccer players should learn to play well with both feet. But even so, there is always an advantage on accuracy and power when kicking with your dominant foot. Being left footed is a nice gift to have in the soccer world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 13, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted June 13, 2020 I still think it's a birth defect from my wife's side but I accept that Buford is left foot forward. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted June 30, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2020 That rear “boot” is perfect. It is even pink!!! Love it. Welcome to the LFF club, Buford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted August 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2020 I’ve always wondered if there is real advantage to either. RFF has a natural onside gate turn in, which seems like a huge head start. LFF has 3 onside turns in the course. Parrish makes it look like LFF is not a bad thing, but it feels like you see a lot more RFF skiers in the top ranks. The only test I’ve seen deliver consistent accurate results is putting your kid on a scooter and seeing which foot is on the scooter (front) and which they push with (back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted August 20, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 20, 2020 When on trouble or in doubt! Run in circles, scream and shout!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 2, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted June 2, 2021 bump Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted June 2, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted June 2, 2021 If I had seen this post last year, I would have said that in my opinion if you kick with your right foot you should ski left foot forward. Your natural balance is on the non-kicking foot. My test for a beginner is to have them strand with their feet together and give them a slight shove backwards in the solar plexus. Whichever foot they put backwards to catch their balance is the front foot on the ski. Again, that’s the foot with the natural balance, and usually it’s the non-kicking foot. In snowboarding and skateboarding, you are “goofy foot” if you ride right foot forward. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pregom Posted June 2, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2021 @Horton why the bump? Are you still having doubts about which foot forward your daughter should have or is it something else? Reading this whole thread now, I thought you were at peace with LFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted June 2, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2021 @bsmith , on all good soccer players learning to play with both feet, Maradona would disagree with you. By the way, @Horton , Maradona was a lefty as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 2, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted June 2, 2021 @pregom she's definitely left with forward. I bumped this thread because somebody else was asking similar questions in another thread. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted June 2, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2021 No one has asked the critical questions here............... Where does the line form to kick Horton? And what does it cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted June 2, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2021 LFF works for the current world champions. https://www.connellyskis.com/uploads/1/0/3/7/103766634/manonworldchampion_orig.jpg https://www.connellyskis.com/uploads/1/0/3/7/103766634/joelhowleyworldchamp_orig.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted June 2, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2021 Oh....THAT is my problem, I am LFF so I should be on a Connelly! @ALPJr Thank you for showing me my fatal flaw is actually with my ski :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted June 4, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 4, 2021 Manon seems to be doing just fine LFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chaloux Posted June 4, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 4, 2021 Hmm, I never thought about this that much. I kick with my right but am left foot forward. That's for all board sports, biking, skiing, etc. My right foot is my "planted" foot, left foot is in control. My kids are all left foot forward as well, one of them is left handed. Now here's another question - how do you guys hold the handle? I'm left foot forward and my natural inclination is left hand up, right hand down. That feels more natural when cutting left but less natural when cutting right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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