HO OMEGA

[Stevie Boy]

Can anybody give feedback on the HO OMEGA, you hear a lot about various other skis, but I am not hearing much about the OMEGA, clearly it is a very capable ski and the video that I have seen, makes the ski look fantastic, but as said before the videos have Pro Skiers riding them, is there anybody out there, who is not a Pro Skier, that can give feedback.

Thanks in advance.

[lpskier]

Stable, fantastic off side turn. Goes cross course very well. I did not ride standard fin numbers. Since I am back on my regular ski in advance of the start of tournament season, I have a 67 for sale in excellent condition. $1000.

[Frank_MA]

I've been skiing the last 2 years on a Syndicate Omni 69 then on Syndicate Pro 68 and now for 2 weeks at vacation my first sets on the Omega 68. I ski at 32/34 mph - 15/22 off with 205 lbs and I was not well prepared after a 5 month winter break and it was not my usual water. So fare I like the Omega very much, it is very effortless to ski on especially from 34 mph. Somewhere in between the Omni and the Pro, felt good and round from the first moment. I liked the Pro very much and made very good progress on it last year, the best ski i had so far (was almost on KD and D3 in the past) but he physically killed me especially at 32 mph wich is my necessary opening pass so far. To me the Omega feels very smooth trough the wakes an the turns, grabs not as automatic angel as the Pro but if you ski a bit active you get at least a ton of angel and space trough the wakes. I particularly noticed that i was also able to bring myself into a stacked position if the pull already come off the boat and i was not in a good position out of the the turn, which happens very often to me at the beginning of the season. I'm really looking forward to the upcoming season on it and I'm feel this ski will get me through the 28 off or more this year.

[ALPJr]

Bump. What’s the buzz?

[jhughes]

Why not just try it if you are interested?

[ALPJr]

@jhughes I’m happy with my current ski. Just like reading the skier’s comments about new skis and this design looks to be something different. Doesn’t seem to be as much chatter about the new ones these days, save Denali, as there was a couple years ago.

[savaiusini]

It's still early season, but the feedback I've been receiving from those who have tried it in our Demo Program has been very good. Omega rides a little higher in the water than the Pro and Alpha, so it takes a bit less effort, especially at medium line lengths.

 

If you are interested in trying one with no obligation, I would urge you contact me via www.hosports.com/demo and I can get one sent for you to try!

 

Also, for those that haven't seen it, @MarcusBrown gives a nice model by model overview here:

[MarcusBrown]

@ALPJr I'm sure you, and others, are already aware of the HO Demo program, but just incase you hadn't heard about it yet, here's a link with more info:

 

https://hosports.com/demo

 

I don't think it would be wrong for me to say its the best Demo program in the industry, and honestly its the best way to sample all the high end skis (and hardshell boot) HO Builds, to see what works best (and maybe better than your current ski) for you.

[ALPJr]

Agreed that’s a great demo program. Thanks @MarcusBrown The broad knowledge and experience that the HO team puts into this is unmatched.

[Not_The_Pug]

I got a 68 Omega to try. Anyone have some alternative settings from stock that are working well? I'm not liking the finish of the turn, hard to describe, but it feels loose or unsettled. Not confident hooking up and going. Not sure if it has to do with the low tunnel and riding higher in the water. @MarcusBrown @savaiusini

[MarcusBrown]

@Not_The_Pug if you can grab video of a couple passes, feel free to send it to me, and I can take a look. What are your numbers at the moment?

 

Love to help out.

 

Just sent you a direct message with my phone number.

 

MB

[brettmainer]

@Not_The_Pug, try putting your other foot forward, it might help you. Send those videos to Marcus as well.

 

Why are you on a 68"? Did Stephanie feed you too much over the winter? I tried a 67" Omega last summer and really liked it and would have kept it if I hadn't just spent $2k on an XTR a few weeks before I tried the Omega. The 67" seemed perfect for me at 185lbs.

[wawaskr]

@brettmainer can you give a brief comparison of XTR and the Omega?

[brettmainer]

@wawaskr, I can't give a detailed comparison because my Omega experience was only a few sets last August or September and I didn't take any written notes. But, here are the basics.

 

The Omega was fast and fun. I don't recall anything I would have it do better, but I missed 38 more than I made it in my 6 or so total tries. I no longer recall the specifics of any individual pass, so I can't provide any better details other than it was me, not the ski. The XTR seems to keep going when I get screwed up at 38 and gets me through the pass, even if it isn't pretty to look at. To be clear, even on the XTR I miss 38 more than I make it. I have never been consistent at 38 and only rarely have I run 38 back to back.

 

The Omega (and Alpha too, as I skied that for about a month last June/July) are way less work than the XTR. I could ski 8 passes on either HO and be less beat up and tired than 6 passes on the XTR. I think that is a known attribute of the Nano 1 shape. They keep turning and working their way down course, no matter how unsightly, but it takes a lot of physical effort. Greg Badal told me that he can get just as good of a score, maybe even better, on the XTR as opposed to the Revo, but he couldn't ski a multiple round Big Dawg on an XTR and have anything left for the finals.

 

In summary:

- I have elbow and back pain skiing on the XTR but felt great after skiing the Omega.

- If I was skiing at Nationals and had to choose the ski on which I would be most likely to run 38, I would pick the XTR.

- If we were having a contest to see who could run the most 32s or 35s in a row, I would certainly choose the Omega.

- The summary above perhaps undersells the Omega, because it felt so good I probably would have gotten in better sync with it. I was just too cheap to find out after having bought both a Radar and an XTR in the preceding two months.

[S1Pitts]

I had my 3rd outing of the year today and first ride on the Omega- open water as the lake is low and the bay with the course is a mud flat.

Firstly I prefer long shallow so I opted for settings that Luzz posted in another thread here on BOS for the Omega more towards long shallow. Secondly this ski feels different than any other ski I have been on....not bad in any way.... just different (think super smooth here). It even looks different which is certainly running tip down flat on the water. Thirdly I had the best ever 1st ride on a new ski ever bar none.....almost like it was meant to be.

After 20 or so turns I felt completely at home on it. Killer off side turns that felt virtually identical to the on side. Skiing felt effortless and automatic with smooth wake crossings. Seems like it comes to speed and just stays there yet it all happens seamlessly with no glaring bad tendencies or traits.

After crawling on to the swim platform exhausted and out of breath all I could think of was ......this could be a great season. Well done HO Skis.

[skibug]

Bump!! Anyone have some numbers to share on this ski? I have a 67" to demo. Front Binding location? Alternate long and shallow fin settings? Wing angle for 34 mph?

[S1Pitts]

@skibug - Sorry off the grid for a few days- 67 " and skiing at 34.2mph - I think the boots are a bit further forward than Luzz numbers by .25.

2.467 6.945 0.755 - Fin

9 29.750 17.250 - Wing - Boots

 

[S1Pitts]

Just for fun I thru the CG fin in to see what would happen. Made it all feel easier and off side turn feels stronger than the on side now. SWEET!

2.475 6.928 0.775 8.5 30.000 17.500

Depth Length DFT Wing Fnt Boot Rear Boot

 

[CCPD3]

Anyone using a Whispering Fin on a 68" Omega? If so what numbers are you using?

[markn]

Was on a 67 Syndicate Pro before I broke it. HO offered a 2021 replacement or a 2020 Omega. (again, amazing customer service from HO). Did not want to wait for the Pro, so took the Omega and it is fantastic. Stable, fast and not as sensitive to body position as the pro and not quite as much effort required to generate speed. Angle out of the buoy is fantastic....just let the ski finish the turn and ride an early line to the next buoy. On stock settings, the ski is great. Not sure I am even going to make any adjustments. Was a Swiss today and ran 28 thru 38 on it @ 34 mph. Actually like the 2020 Omega better than the 2020 Pro. Both skis are as good as it gets and the customer service is second to none. Give one a rip.

[Frank_MA]

New Settings on the HO Homepage for the 2021 Omega but if I understand correctly nothin has changed on the ski shape so it should work also for the 2020. So fare the best setting working for me on the 68 was 30.5, 6.87, 2.495, 0.8 but the new default are 30.25, 6.940, 2.465, 0.79. I will try it out tomorrow.

[Jody_Seal]

Had a friend lay a new Omega on me to try out. Beautiful layup work and ski finnish work second to none however I wrapped it back up and sent it back with out riding it.

Reason for not riding the ski is that there were or are 4 quarter X 32 inserts running down the middle of the ski. These inserts deflect through to the bottom surface causing the bottom surface to be noticeably raised. As much as a 32nd of an inch.

That kind of surface deflect has to have a impact on the skis performance.

[ALPJr]

Sounds like a blem perhaps @Jody_Seal

[savaiusini]

@Jody_Seal We sometimes see this on a small number of early-run skis as we fine tune core fit settings, etc. While not the intended finish quality we strive for, I've skied a few test skis like this over the years and can assure you that you cannot tell a difference. You'll run all your same passes.

 

PS. those inserts are M6 for those who use our Direct Connect system B)

[owennibley]

If anyone is in the market for the HO Omega, I would highly recommend this ski. I came off a CX Superlite for the past 3 years and decided to get a new ski. I have been getting into 28'@34 so not amazing skier but I thought a change would be good. I did buy the Denali C-75 thinking that it would be my savior into getting to 32'-35'off. I did get tie my PB on the Denali and it is a very capable ski, just not for me I guess (its for sale on SIA if interested).

 

I hopped on the Omega and immediately felt stable and the turns crisp. Within 3 sets I tied my PB and it felt amazing. To quote Horton, it is "wicked fast". I didn't have to mess with settings or anything. Just mounted up bindings and skied. Also, I used much less energy to ski the same amount on other skis, which is good for my bum back and elbows. I plan on getting a few buoys at 32' before the season ends.

 

Just in case someone needed that extra push to try this ski.... DO IT. You won't regret it.

[mcskier41]

I wanted to add my input about the OMEGA. Was on the Denali C75 for past 2 seasons. This fall the Omega became available for me to try. If skied correctly, this ski is very rewarding. In comparing to the Denali, it's less effort and easier on my body with less back pain. With the Denali I was constantly searching for the perfect binding and fin settings and never really improved and never could get a good consistent onside turn. Literally over 2 years I was changing settings to no avail.

With the Omega I put it at factory settings and have made one minor adjustment taking a tiny bit of tip out to smooth out my offside turn. I'm making more passes now and improved my personal best for the year even with skiing in cold water in December and January. Very happy with the ski!