Administrators Horton Posted November 13, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 13, 2019 Last time this happened I did not name names and tried not to be a dick about it but now I am pissed. Scot relentlessly uses fake accounts to ask leading questions and start conversations to promote his views. At times he even has his fake accounts talk to each other to keep the conversation going. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ReggieO Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 no time for shit like that, glad you did that if he was playing both sides of the card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted November 13, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted November 13, 2019 Well that is bizarre. The "actual" Scot Chipman always seemed like a pretty reasonable guy. Oh well. No sympathy if indeed he was acting as you describe. The silver lining is I may never again have to explain that Dave Nelson's work was super-interesting but did not "mathematically prove" anything. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 13, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 13, 2019 @Than_Bogan I could not make this sh*t up. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 How did you figure this out ? ... Did he use the same computer for both identities, thus the same IP number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 who has time to make up fake identities. seriously. it's crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 If you have multiple personalities can you have multiple accounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Twisted ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jetsetr Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Guess I can’t wrap my mind around WHY someone would do this...but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Have you ever seen the movie Split? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 I was thinking the last couple days "who is this guy?" super funny,...think I will start another account and have argument with myself like I do in my head daily...spice things up a bit around here...or hack @skidawg account and start telling @horton he is a better beer drinker and skier :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Laz Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 I saw watched a TED talk about internet communities. It was quite interesting. One of the points was that a healthy online community requires a mayor or chaos ensues. Therefore, thanks Mayor @Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wawaskr Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 From my experience reading forums, it seems that majority of people who post frequently, like to 'open their mouths to hear themselves talk' so to speak, without either answering a direct question or providing any value to the post. But, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 @Horton Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Now who's going to ask about the surface area of every new ski that is tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markchilcutt Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hold up a minute!!!! So @Horton your telling me the jaredsmith who was pm ing me about buying my boat was Chipman?? The guy I occasionally ski with and see at the lake often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted November 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 13, 2019 My wife has multiple personalities, can she have multiple accounts?? She also likes to talk to me during sex! Just last week she called me from the motel!! Just ask my doctor Bennie Birnbaum he chimed in on the conversation! I tell ya, I cant get no respect!! Rodney!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 That doesn't make sense does it @markchilcutt? Why would Scot be interested in your boat? He has then new Nautique. This is just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 That guy is a promo person for nautique. Does not look like a good person for the nautique product. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bsmith Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Someone who does this kind of thing is not a trustworthy person. It is very likely that his underhanded behavior is not confined to seeing if he can trick members of a forum. All of you who have to deal with Chipman in real life should be on guard. It is also likely that Chipman will try to breech this forum again. But it sounds like @Horton has his number and will be able to quickly catch him when he tries again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 13, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 13, 2019 @markchilcutt please tell me you are joking! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 For all we know, he could be half of the active participants on this site. He's like Agent Smith. You keep killing him and he keeps coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted November 13, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted November 13, 2019 From now on, I assuming that all of you are actually Scot Chipman. Especially Horton. I mean what could be more meta than kicking some of your split personalities out of your own forum!? It's brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markchilcutt Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 @Horton no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 13, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 13, 2019 I live in hell Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted November 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 13, 2019 @Horton Purgatory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 I’ll give u my password @jayski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 I guess I missed the drama earlier that got him banned before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 13, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 13, 2019 @klindy no real drama. just fake news under a fake name. manipulative and disingenuous. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 I am actually both @adamhcaldwell and @AdamCord. I sell science-based skis and fin/wing products out of MN while running 41 in my free time...tho my skis are actually designed manufactured by a pair of other skiers. I have knowledge of the physics of water skiing that few have, and I talk to myself incessantly. I have fooled @horton all of this time, earning the triple panda under my other alias @6balls. The ruse is that I portray myself as an aging 47 year-old guy whose spine is falling apart and whose ski partners have moved away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 Sounds like the ideal oppotunity for a Triple Self Panda Award, how painful could that be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted November 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted November 13, 2019 Pretty soon @skidawg will be having a coming out party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 I will be safe as long as Shill doesn't hack me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 What do you guys think about that slot caliper thing-a-do? I was thinking about getting one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 13, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 13, 2019 @Bill22 just start another thread and ask the question over again. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted November 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 13, 2019 @Horton it’s a bad joke (sarcasm is hard online). Didn’t Scott always say they were the greatest thing ever. Horton thanks for all you do to keep this site going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 Hey Everybody, I'm one of the folks who knows Chipman on a personal level. He and I have chatted about this exact issue even. I'm not trying to be his personal lawyer on here or anything like that, but thought I might just remind everybody that there are always two sides to every story, and the reminder that there is a human on the other side of this who probably can still read most of this, so please be careful about unkind things you might throw his way. Also a reminder that he is and has been a very valuable member of the waterskiing community for a long time and has done a lot of things to encourage and grow the sport and get and keep people involved in slalom skiing. Again, I'm not saying Horton is wrong to terminate the account or anything - no way I could possibly know enough to say something like that, I'm just saying, remember to be nice to a guy who is one of us after all. And on that topic, he asked me to post his ski for sale on here a while back and I totally forgot and now I totally feel like a horses patoot. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=53376 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 14, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 14, 2019 @escmanaze I have banned him THREE different times in the last year. He brought it on himself. I am sure Scot thinks I have wronged him & has a story about how he is innocent. I do not see it & am not interested in debating it. I just want him to go away. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 Time for a long holiday on nointernet Island everyone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 @Horton I totally get that too. I'm right there with you. Totally not interested in even debating it or anything. I'm just trying to remind everybody to still be nice to somebody who has done a lot of positive things for the waterskiing community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 Funny (hmm, not Ha). I equally disliked comments from both of him, even if he is a nice guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_I_Ski Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 @horton, just mildly curious. can you tell us what got him banned initially and if the subsequent bans were for creating fake accounts or were there other transgressions? "FAKE", now there is a word we've all become intimately familiar with in the past three years! And I'm fine should you choose not to divulge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 14, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted November 14, 2019 @So_I_Ski I am glad you asked. That needs to be clarified for everyone who has not followed this. Never has Scot been banned for anything he specifically wrote under his own name. I do not care for the way he manipulates conversations but that is not a reason to get banned. The original issue was that he was posting under three accounts. At times he would post from all three accounts in the same thread and pretend to talk to himself. I could clearly see that the three accounts all used the same IP address. His defense was that he, his wife and a friend all use the same PC to read and comment on BallOfSpray. I believe at one point he said that sometimes he posted for his friend. Bottom line was is that he was using the three accounts to boost conversations that he agrees with. The second time he was doing basically the same thing. The third time he was using a fake name. Turns out there are actually 3 USAWS members named Jared Smith. The email for the account was something like TexasJared@gmail.com. I forget the actual address but it had “Jared” and “Texas” in the email. Turns out there is a Jared Smith from Texas in the USAWS database. I wonder what the real Jared thinks. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GaryWilkinson Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 People who do this kinda thing have very, very boring lives. Borderline psychotic. But most of all I think they are losers lacking real human connections and are “playing around” in here for the attention that is lacking in their daily lives. May they all be caught, banned and thus relieving us from wasting anymore time reading and responding to their tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 Maybe he’s the Subway pitchman too :D bad joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jriester33 Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 Finkle is Einhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted November 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 14, 2019 After looking up the "finkle is einhorn" reference, I can only say I take pride in the fact that I had to look up that reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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