Baller_ DW Posted March 31, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted March 31, 2020 @RichardDoane - Why steel, how about aluminum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 @RichardDoane or stainless steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted March 31, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted March 31, 2020 @DW mild steel welds/cuts so much easier and I have in stock. NW Powdercoatings will put on the finishing touches. Someday I will buy a heli-arc TIG machine for aluminum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted March 31, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted March 31, 2020 @RichardDoane - very true but steel is pretty heavy. Any chance you have some thin wall tubing for that down strut? FYI - our fresh lake water trashes powdercoatings pretty fast, not sure what your lake is like. Agree, love to have that TIG machine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MidMOSkier Posted April 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted April 1, 2020 @RichardDoane @Zman @DW Thanks for the help. The Moeller 19 gal tank looks like it'll be a great fit if I figure out how to mount it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted April 1, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted April 1, 2020 @MidMOSkier - usually tanks are held in place with some sort of angle bracket, in the case of a Malibu they use plastic L shaped brackets screwed to the floor. Carpet underneath keeps it from chafing and wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 1, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 1, 2020 An extra block was added as a spacer and attachment point for this Brendella. @MidMOSkier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 4, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 4, 2020 I figured that we better fix the trailer lights in case we make it to the lake for a test lap next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 6, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 6, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 6, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 6, 2020 @EFW thank you, that's cool, you Rock ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 25, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 25, 2020 Finally made some time to mock up the swim step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 25, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 25, 2020 It’s easier to move the welder around than the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 25, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 25, 2020 Next week we’ll hit those brackets with some paint and install the step. Thanks again to @ToddA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddA Posted April 29, 2020 Baller Share Posted April 29, 2020 @RichardDoane glad to contribute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted April 29, 2020 Baller Share Posted April 29, 2020 cool project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted April 29, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted April 29, 2020 @RichardDoane - is that a Nash on the lift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted April 30, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted April 30, 2020 That’s the 58 Metropolitan. Right hand drive. It’s next after the Brendella project. @DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted April 30, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted April 30, 2020 @RichardDoane I think you need a few more projects! If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted May 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 2, 2020 @RichardDoane - have to ask why u decided to build platform brackets vs buy? Alloy Marine / great folks . LOVE your project/ great thread. Total rehabs are a big job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 2, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 2, 2020 $375. of reasons to make my own. @MDB1056 I’ve been keeping track of the parts dollars and trying to save where I can. Upholstery bill will be a lot as I can’t sew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller cougfan Posted May 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 3, 2020 @RichardDoane I am like you why buy when you can make it yourself and save money. Love this thread about your project. Being from Wa. I will formally invite you to bring the finished product up to Bow lake on a Wednesday and let the Wednesday night crew try it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 6, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 6, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted May 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 6, 2020 I kind of like the Hydrodyne there too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted May 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 6, 2020 In re: to powdercoating - I've had better luck with POR 15 on projects like that than powder - seems like no matter how clean/prepped/new my metal is the powder very quickly starts getting rust spots through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 6, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 6, 2020 @Mike Gile at the helm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 6, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 6, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted May 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 6, 2020 Best video of 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MidMOSkier Posted May 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 7, 2020 So nice watching this boat come together. Great job so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Timr71 Posted May 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 7, 2020 Love this, great boat, looks like fun skiing too. Glad it was saved from the junk yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 12, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 12, 2020 The water test revealed a number of things, beginning with the need for fresh tune up parts, but also the need for the shaft packing reseal. With the engine cover up, you could watch the lake water just streaming into the bilge. That explains why the boat was sinking in the boat house @Horton ‘s lake. This afternoon I took some time to disassemble, inspect and measure. I’m not sure if we’ll go to the OJ drip less housing, or just reseal the shaft log with the updated Teflon rope style. The 1.000” shaft has a worn area that’s down to .0965”. Amazing that dirty water over time can be so abrasive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted May 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 12, 2020 Install a longer rubber coupler if you have room before the trans. Looks like plenty and you'll be on clean shafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ReallyGottaSki Posted May 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 12, 2020 oh my considering a new shaft? as a restraining collar wont help. But you could put a streamlined zinc anode below waterline forward of the strut for insurance till then However changing that hose to a slightly longer length would get the seal on fresh meat. you've probably already thought of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted May 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 12, 2020 @RichardDoane from 1.000 to .0965 that’s a lot of wear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted May 12, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted May 12, 2020 I hope @RichardDoane misplaced a 0 in there. But still, 0.035" wear is huge. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 12, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 12, 2020 Oops, fat fingered mistake, worn area is .965. @ReallyGottaSki the bushings in the strut are worn out as well, so it may snowball into a new ARE shaft kit with all the trimmings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Timr71 Posted May 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 12, 2020 Boats of this vintage seemed to use a 1" diameter shaft, right? Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Boat-Propeller-Shaft-100914-42-x-1-Inch-Stainless-Steel/193407658676?hash=item2d07feaab4:g:Wm8AAOSwdNlehlVG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 12, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 12, 2020 yes, that's actually a pretty good price, but with a fresh set of strut bushings, a longer rubber hose to move the packing contact area up the shaft, and some fresh packing rope that boat will be ready for the OJ Legend 4 blade prop instead of spending a bunch of $$$ on drip-less and a new shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted May 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 12, 2020 @Timr71 - almost all are either 1" or 1 1/8" - the larger size shafting was mostly used by MC with their "powerslot" gear reduction drives to support the bigger 14"x18" pitch props - the standard 13x13 size props just frankly don't have enough grip in the water to tear up shafting and V8's are smooth power delivery. Ironically no one would use a 1" shaft for a 60 horsepower 4 cylinder marine diesel - too much torque, too few power impulses/rotation and steep grippy prop pitch snaps them more than ski boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Timr71 Posted May 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 12, 2020 Thanks BM, that's good to know. From a shopping perspective the 1 1/8" shafts appear to be more readily available in various lengths than the 1" shafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 15, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 15, 2020 The shaft is also quite worn in the strut contact areas as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 15, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 15, 2020 Strut removal was necessary to get the strut bushings out. It’s a good thing I know a “hammer mechanic” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 15, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 15, 2020 A.R.E. stuff from Elbert's is the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MidMOSkier Posted May 24, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2020 @RichardDoane how are you planning to route the blower hose? Edit: I missed the original picture where it comes from the left side and passes in front of the gas tank. Never mind! Was very confused by the routing in the Brendella I am restoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 30, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 30, 2020 @MidMOSkier we’ll redo the blower and vent hoses after all the mechanical stuff is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 30, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 30, 2020 The shaft kit and parts have all arrived. The strut cleaned up nicely and accepted new bushings perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 30, 2020 Author Baller_ Share Posted May 30, 2020 Hopefully next week we’ll put the pieces of the puzzle back together again. Does anyone have knowledge about how “permanent” the 3m 5200 actually is ? Or should we go with the 4200 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted May 30, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2020 5200 is pretty tough stuff, harder to remove easily. Make sure you’ve got the strut correctly positioned and you’ll be fine with the 5200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodcanal454 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Very cool thread. Enjoying to pictures of the old brendella! I see you made your own swim deck brackets, but I’m curious if you know if you can by then in ss? Are they somewhat generic? Mine is missing the swim deck, which I plan on building, but don’t have the capability of welding ss. I run my Brendella in saltwater so I don’t think powder coating will hold up very long. Thanks, Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dano Posted June 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 4, 2020 If you use 3m 5200 and have to remove the item after it has set, use a heat gun to heat the metal part and the 5200 will soften again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller immikerowley Posted June 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 4, 2020 Looking amazing Richard, great work. BABE’S Boat Care ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Rodics Innovation ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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