Baller Stevie Boy Posted July 31, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2019 Not sure but I believe it is a splash eye app or similar which is likely to become the norm for competition drivers, the app gives live feedback to the tower on alignment and if the pass was within tolerance, Judges will also be able to feedback to the driver if he is driving bias to one side, the opportunity to move the boat to assist the skier will be drastically reduced and maybe not possible in the slightest way. Interesting to see how this one is going to pan out, how many re-runs can you do in a day ? I also beleive that the IWWSF are checking lines for tolerance number of strands, amount of stretch etc and providing them to organisations around the world for Top Competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 It's been around for years now and it hasn't changed anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 1, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 1, 2019 If the LOC is willing to bend the rules to get high scores then there is no stopping it. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 1, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 Not sure if it is the app that has been around for a while, if it is, it has been reworked, Drivers I have been talking to say that it is pretty tight and you have to be on your game to drive a pass and get a green light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bko Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 Where can I get this app? Is it available yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @bko app is the wrong word http://www.splasheye.com/buy-now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 I think it would be great to have. Honestly I think it will be a better tool to get sub par drivers to step up their game more than catch a few who are attempting to "bend the rules". I see a lot more of the former than the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 You guys are likely talking about two different things. There is a new boat tracking app coming soon which is not directly connected with Splasheye. I don’t know a great deal about it but it has been used in a few European tournaments and it give instant visual feedback and measurements of the boat path both on shore and in the boat. It’s called Sure Path. It’s GPS based not video based and since it uses a base station to calculate out the offset it’s extremely accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 Many thanks for infos @klindy . Wasn't sure what we were discussing here... Do you know if it was use at San Gervasio,Botaski or elsewhere? You know,those suspicious European Tournaments according to some... ;) My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 I would love to have access to what @klindy described when driving practice and/or tournaments. Instant feedback on your boat path would be invaluable as a driver. Hopefully the cost isn't an impediment to widespread use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Splasheye Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @Andre SplashEyeDrive was used at Botaski, San Gervasio and Mapple ProAm to do Live manual tracking. As @klindy says the GPS systems (I have heard there are a few different ones coming out) are nothing to do with SplashEye. No idea on the price points for the GPS systems but I can predict that the FREE SplashEye software will remain the cheapest tracking solution ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @Splasheye what FREE software? I don't see that on your website. What is it and how does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Splasheye Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 www.splasheye.com/splasheyedrive Free manual tracking. Use your standard end course camera with the same $200 USB capture device that you use for SplashEye Mobile Jump or SplashEye Live Trick Timing. After the pass the judge takes 10 seconds to track the boat at each buoy. Simple and quick. Also allows you to open and track end course video files for review/record checking. After each pass you get video and PDF records of the pass by skier name. Paid upgrades to automatic tracking coming soon. GPS Tracking is absolutely the future. In the meantime a very small amount of effort allows you to ensure every pass is in tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @Splasheye You guys are working on a GPS system too ? My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @klindy where did you find that app...can't seem to locate it in google play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @jayski not public yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @MattP Any testing help needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 1, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @klindy thanks for putting us all in the picture , I wasn,t sure but splash eye must have been mentioned in the conversation, Sure Path is the one that the officials have been working with, as said by others great training aid for those who want to give the skier a good pull and not just drive the boat. As above splasheye are working on gps system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 Thanks @MattP My understanding is in limited testing now but it works pretty well. I have no idea of the rollout plan, cost or other requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 @MattP @klindy I have an 8 round tourney Mid Sept, if the creators want to do some repetitive testing they are more than welcome to come over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2019 Is the GPS mounted on the pylon or within a given distance along the centerline of the boat? I've seen drone video of boats pivoting and turning a bit but with the pylon nearly dead centered in the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted August 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2019 @UWSkier GPS systems have a built in error. If you’re only interested in the differential of point A and point B (like speed control) that’s good enough. If you want to use GPS to measure the real distance from one point to another you need to know what that offset is. One way requires military clearance for the GPS offset. The other civilian route is to install a base station in known location (surveyed). Essentially it knows where the same satellites are your GPS system is using and it knows where the base station is located relative to you’re device. With that information you can calculate the offset. Layman explanation but basically that explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted August 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2019 @klindy that is correct for GPS using satellites. Another option is to use a local based system where sensors are located on the shore and one in the boat. The proximity makes accuracy no problem for something like this. Negative is that the system would have to be set up for each site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted August 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2019 @vtmecheng you’re right. My understanding is the system uses and includes a base station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted August 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2019 I have seen pictures of the feedback from the GPS systems. It’s available immediately after a pass on your phone. Hopefully it won’t be cost prohibitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 6, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted August 6, 2019 For anybody interested on how Surepath works/ http://sure-path.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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