jenksski Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Feed back on the Radar 2019 Vapor Lithium and Senate Pro. I run the course 32/34mph @15off. Looking to shorten the rope at some stage in the near future. I've had my 2016 Senate Graphite since new, just wondering if I should upgrade to a 2019 vapor lithium or senate pro. Cost also comes into things. All advice/recommendations would be great. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted July 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2019 Senate Pro will easily be good enough for 34mph into 35-38 off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2019 I would say stick with the Senate shape for now. Unless you are trying to get to 36 mph without seeing you ski I don't think there is a big benefit to going Vapor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2019 Ski bud and I both went from Vapor Pros to Senates in the past year. We're both 34 mph skiers and both skiing better on the Senates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksski Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Great to hear guys. It's good to read what fellow skiers are using and what suits them better. Like you guys @UWSkier, max speed I'll be skiing at will be 34mph too. Think the Senate is the way to go at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksski Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Not going to consider getting to 36mph as I'm 37 yrs of age and hopefully plan to enter tournaments @Chef23 at some point. So in the age cat, I can only ski at 34mph max. I'll look into the senate range again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted July 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2019 I'm pretty sure that @skidawg went from a vapor pro build to a senate pro build. Maybe he can comment further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted July 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 5, 2019 Ran 3@41 numerous tournaments last summer on my senate pro at 34mph, it won’t disappoint, especially if you are 185 plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JAS Posted July 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 5, 2019 @skidawg @28-32@34 mph how much will a 67” support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted July 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 5, 2019 Weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksski Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 Cheers @skidawg and @Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksski Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 @skidawg what made you swap between the vapor to senate pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted September 15, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2019 @skidawg what fin settings please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddK Posted September 15, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2019 Great deal on a 2019 Senate Pro 67' on SIA: http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=52648 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller coach3 Posted September 15, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2019 I have a 2019 vapor lithium, 66" that is a bit softer and really turns. almost new, $675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted September 15, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2019 I run pretty much stock, touch shallower and tad longer-bindings at 30.5 on 67” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jskier Posted September 15, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2019 I weigh 205 and ski on the 2020 67 Senate Pro. Love the ski. I also tried several sets on the 2020 Vapor Pro, but skied far more smoothly on the Senate (34mph) into 35 off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted September 16, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 16, 2019 @jskier fin and bindings settings please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted September 16, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 16, 2019 @skidawg thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobonator Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Hey! @jenksski I just made the switch from a 19 lithium vapor to a 19 Senate pro!! I currently ski 15off @ 34mph and have just started working my way into 22off. I made the switch because the extra width on the senate pro felt so much more supportive in and out of the turns than the vapor. I felt the vapor definitely turned harder and was faster, but only when I got up to 34mph. The senate was miles better when slowed down. Also, I only felt better on the vapor on days were I was at my absolute best. On an average day, I would ski up to the same level on the senate. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jskier Posted September 16, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 16, 2019 @paul413ski: I am running stock fin and binding settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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