2019 Vapor Pro Build vs 2019 Senate Pro

[ISP6ball]

Anybody have experience with both these skis? I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences. Thanks

[block]

I ski on a 67” Senate Pro Build and

Love it. I was on a 2017 Vapor which I liked.

The Senate is more stable in all areas of the course whithout

Any penalty.

It has helped me work on proper technique. The Vapor skied me. :)

I am -22 through -35 skier.

 

 

[ISP6ball]

Thanks for the info @block. I'm a 34 mph skier and -28 to -35 is where I spend most of my time.

 

I'm currently on a 2017 67" Pro Build

[markchilcutt]

I am on the 67" 19 Vapor and love it. I tried the 67" Senate Pro last fall and also loved it. I would say the Vapor is a better fit for my weight and line lengths. I would be interested in trying the senate in a 66 if they made that size.

 

 

[ISP6ball]

@markchilcutt thanks for the response. Can you elaborate on the weight and line length that drew you to the vapor?

 

I am 175lbs

[Jordan]

Perhaps @skidawg will chime in. He has skied deep shoreline on both.

[skidawg]

I’m 185lb and love the extra surface of the senate pro, if I was 15lb lighter then I would probably be on the vapor (since there isn’t a 66 senate pro ) - both skis Rock (paraphrased from MS

[Stevie Boy]

I have hit the age where I have started skiing 32mph 175llbs-185llbs depending on time of year currently on a Vapor Pro, does anybody think that I would be better off on a Senate.

Thanks

[skidawg]

Yes

[jhughes]

I tried both extensively last summer and the Senate Pro never clicked with me. I understand I'm in the minority here. The PB was mind-blowingly better for me. Infinitely more "forgiving" and "stable". Much more "flowy". Both skis were tried and tweaked with input from Radar staff. Just a better ski for me, and in fact the best ski I've tried in a long time. And I try a lot of (too many) skis. 34mph 22-32 off.

 

 

[markchilcutt]

@ISP6ball I am 185 lbs 5' 9" tall and occasionally run -35 at 34mph. For me the 67" senate pro felt like to much surface area while pulling from buoy to center line. It turned awesome on both sides but I feel like I can create more space into the buoy on my Vapor.

[jimski]

What size @markchilcutt 67?

[Deanoski]

just need a 66

 

[markchilcutt]

@jimski I am on a 67 vapor

[coach3]

where is the 65" senate pro?....is the Lithium just as good?

[skimtb]

185-190 lbs. 33-34mph skier. Working for consistency at 28 off, also trying to get thru 32 off, although slowing boat down to 32.3. Goal to get to 34.2....

On 67” vapor pro now.

Would 67” senate pro or 68” vapor pro be better for my weight / speed?

I don’t seem to think the vapor is unstable (actually love the speed it gets me when I ask of it), so I don’t know what “more stability” or “more forgiving” with the senate means. Unless that would correlate to consistency...

Anyone else ski both in this range?

Or do I stick with what I got and spend any ski $$ on some video coaching?

[DaveD]

@skimtb Coaching is way cheaper than a new ski and usually makes a bigger difference.

[pregom]

true, and also why is this question asked in the context of a comparison of 2019 models when now we have 2021 models?

[ISP6ball]

@pregom, because the question was asked April of 2019.....

[pregom]

@ISP6ball - I was referring to resurrecting this thread almost a year and half later.

[skimtb]

Because I was searching for senate vs vapor. In reality I’d be looking used anyway, so 2019 could be about perfect.

Thanks @DaveD

[WoodySkier]

I’m on a 2020 Senate Pro. I ski 22 off 32 mph, and it is an amazing ski. My last ski was a 2017 Senate Lithium and the senate pro is a pretty big upgrade. It creates speed with much less effort and is more refined.