Baller Stevie Boy Posted April 30, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 Hi Guy,s currently skiing on a 2017 Pro Build, I know that not everybody got on with this ski, but I quite like it, but I do have a question which revolves around the sweet spot on the 2017 compared to the 2018/19. When I am skiing well on the 2017 and manage to find that sweet spot in the turn, the ski is awsome, problem being that everything has to be right to find it, so sometimes consistency suffers. I am thinking of buying the 2018/19 Pro Build, what I am asking is the sweet spot easier to find in the turn than the ski that I am currently on. Would appreciate comments that are geuine and not just flying the flag for Radar or though I think that their product and customer service is one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted April 30, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 I have never been on a 2017, but the 2018 once you get the offside dialed it is effortless. I now have the 2019 and it is phenomenal to ski on. Offside is better, the new layup makes it finish the turn even better and earlier than the 2018 and is super fast. I am a very inconsistent skier, and the 2019 makes it very easy to have consistent passes and set PB’s. Go for the 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted April 30, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 No comparison! ‘19 is much easier to ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted April 30, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 I know this is silly to ask but have you fiddled with your binding location? Seems like you might be just that bit off if you're hunting the sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted April 30, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 I consider my 2017 a great trainer. Balanced on the ski? Turns like sports car! Get on the rear? Will stop dead like a Chevy Vega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted April 30, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 @BraceMaker even weight on both feet in the turn and you are in heaven, slighly forward or back pressure on the ski it still turns but you do not get to feel the love at the end of the turn, when you get it right it is sensational, the approach to the ball makes or breaks it for me. I pretty much agree with @"Keith Menard" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted April 30, 2019 Administrators Share Posted April 30, 2019 @Stevie Boy I had a love / hate thing for the 2018 when it first came out. I think this was mostly because of the settings. I have been on a 2019 this spring and it is freaking great with the settings I am running now. 67" 9° 2.503 6.830 .766 29 7/8 I like it even better with the bindings back another 8th but need to maybe add a touch of depth with the bindings there. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rq0013 Posted April 30, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 17 was faster but the 18/19 is smoother and easier to ride for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted April 30, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 2019 way easier to ski with/on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted April 30, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted April 30, 2019 Thanks for input Guy,s much appreciated looks like a 2019 Pro in a couple of months time, just have to get the wife onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 30, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted April 30, 2019 I have a 19 blue pro build. Love the ski. Utilizing the short and deep fin set up. Ski turns very well and builds and carries great direction through the wakes. Set it up as per factory specs little or no further adjustments it should work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sethro Posted May 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 1, 2019 I remember how great the '16 vapor was...I still think it's great! I'm contemplating a new ski "just because" I guess and it'd be tough to talk me out of the '19 vapor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted May 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 1, 2019 I have the 2018 Vapor Probuild and it's absolutely amazing! Super smooth, fast and easy to turn on both sides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted May 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 8, 2019 @horton what was the hate part, I'm having a similar problem? I started with the long shallow w/ boots at 30 1/8. Then the short deep w/ boots 30. I'm on a 67" 2018 probuild Ski felt faster with long shallow but the off side was very unpredictable, I was having to make big safe offside turns then make it up on my onside. Tip was grabbing and out the fronts at the buoy. The short deep setting helped with the offside but the buoy count is down. Your back another 1/8" then considering another 1/8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted May 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 8, 2019 To this day I remain convinced it is hard to generically talk about how a particular make and model of ski "skis" when it has an adjustable fin and holes to adjust bindings. Especially after buying and reading SkiJay's book. Horton's post only reinforced that thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted May 8, 2019 Administrators Share Posted May 8, 2019 @gregy I just did not like long / shallow. Once I went short/deep it was all love. Boots at 29 7/8 or 28 3/4. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted May 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 9, 2019 @gregy the short/deep settings have more fin area so a bindings back move will benefit you by giving you more ability to slide the tail of the ski through the finish of the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markchilcutt Posted May 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2019 For me each revision of the Vapor over the years has felt better and easier. New stuff good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted May 16, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 16, 2019 @Chris Rossi I tried a 67" Senate Pro with boots at 30.5 and stock fin settings. I liked it so got me thinking. I put my boots at 30 1/4 and the Senate fin settings on 2018 Vapor Pro. It was hunting some. I move the boots back to 30 1/8 and that was the best yet. Offside turn was very comfortable with no tip grab after 2 days with 3 sets. Fin 2.465, 6.960, .775, 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted May 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 17, 2019 @gregy glad to hear you are settling in on a setting you prefer! Keep us in the loop of your progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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