ZO vs PP for Trick

[Sanderwouters]

Hi all,

 

Skied behind a 196 nautique with PP almost all my life. Now changing to a Mastercraft 210 VRS, it has no cruise control yet. My question is, what brand and which model has the advantage if i'm almost only tricking? Preference goes out to the basic PP version cause that is the cheapest and i know how to use it.

 

Would love to hear your input,

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Sander

[vtjc]

What year is the Mastercraft and what motor does it have? Roughly needs to be 07/08+ or newer with an e-controls ECU to install ZO easily.

[Sanderwouters]

It's a 2003 boat. So cause of throtle control only PP would work?

[BraceMaker]

Correct. ZO is made by the company that makes the engine control computer. So if the boat doesn't have their computer the ZO unit won't work.

[Orlando76]

But can’t an 03 have ecm swap blah blah blah? To get the ZO?

 

 

[BraceMaker]

Probably at a minimum cats intake ecu throttle body wiring loom etc.

 

At that point better to repower.

[Jody_Seal]

Ok one more time!!

Any vortec 1996 or newer sbc can be converted to e-control and zo.. no cats only how much are you willing to spend??

[Sethro]

@Sanderwouters, if you are trick skiing in a current then hands down you want a PP system with a paddle wheel. Not sure if they even "officially" offer that from PP anymore, but I'm thinking they would if you asked for it as they are very helpful in my experience.

[eleeski]

PP Classic with a paddlewheel is as good as ZO for serious tricking.

 

Without the paddlewheel, every PP I've tricked behind has been unskiable. RPM based is worthless with 2mph variations in speed for a weak old guy like me. GPS alone just doesn't respond fast enough to give a decent pull. Whatever you do, get a paddlewheel!

 

PP Classic with a switch and a really savvy driver is almost as good as ZO for slalom. Zbox is OK for slalom but still not the same as ZO. Real jumpers won't jump behind PP.

 

ZO is magic - use C settings. Worth the money?

 

Eric

[Ski_Dad]

Eric knows his stuff.

 

here are a few more options for you - you didn't say if you trick in a course or not.

 

https://www.hydrophase.com/ridesteady

https://www.hydrophase.com/classic

 

if you find an older system that you want to add GPS to paddlewheel input

http://nauticlaugic.com/Products.html