scottyspin Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hi everyone, I've been looking for the right boat for a year and have let two boats slip out of my hands. Looking for a ski boat on cheaper side in NorCal preferably that I can take out with family, friends and teammates on college team. Looking to stay at 10k or less and preferably open bow but not a must(I know that not many boats fit my constraints). I was just wondering if people know of any good deals, I constantly look at craigslist, other websites and talk with local mechanics but there are never many boats in my range. Its quite a stretch but I love Prostar 205's and SNOB's post 1993. I am open to looking at other boats as well. Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller motoxr Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 Try Ski It Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 10K is just right on the verge of the Prostar 205 - most of these are going to be in pretty rough shape below 10 depending on your market, the Prostar 190's of the same vintage you may get for a few grand less but not open bow. Other boats you might search for - Moomba Outback Supra Malibu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller motoxr Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 You may also want to consider Tige, Gekko or Centurion as less popular and possibly well priced options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 '91-'94 Prostar 190 best bang for the buck under $10k. Not an open bow of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 I've seen some prostar 190's @swc5150 and got an offer on a 1996 for 5k that has been sitting outside without a cover for 3 years... Engine runs but needs to be resealed and whole interior is shot and will need to be redone. Do you think thats a decent option or is that boat a liability for being out in the elements for that long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 @BraceMaker I've also found a 1999 Malibu sunseter lx by me but its a bit out of my price range. How are the wakes on those boats for skiing at 22 off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 @scottyspin - Where in NorCal are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 92 PS 205 This boat was in our club. I knew the original owners and it was used pretty easy since I was in the club (early 2000's). Used by an older couple and the hours were probably mostly learn to ski days. The MB may also be a pretty good boat. I remember the Boss 190's being pretty decent skier back in the early 2000's. They have a 210 which is the Open Bow. This Boss 210 is pretty old but still may be available. Check FB Marketplace as well. Here is a late 80s MC 190 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 Interiors cost more than 5k done right. Skip unless you can live with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 @keithh2oskier I'm on the Bay Area peninsula but can drive a bit if its the right boat. I saw that prostar and love it but it is a bit out of my price range. That 210 can be a good option, how are the wakes on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 @BraceMaker unless I get the boat dirt cheap I am going to pass on that option, that interior is absolutely gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 27, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2019 '91-94 Prostar. If you need an open bow hunt around on Malibu Echelon LX. https://www.onlyinboards.com/1995-Malibu-Echelon-LX-for-sale-Lexington-Kentucky-92802.aspx This one a little over budget I know just wanted to get an example out there of an Echelon LX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 This one is turnkey with GT40 engine and Perfect Pass. Not an open bow , but its pretty sweet. You can ski it yourself . Located in Sacramento. 1980 MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 @LoopSki how much is the asking price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 call on the 92 ps...Offer them 10k and tell 'em it's going to further the sport with College kid! Anyone who keeps their garage that neat has plenty of money anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 28, 2019 Administrators Share Posted February 28, 2019 @scottyspin I might have a 2000 SN with GT40 for 5K. Boat needs to be cleaned up but she runs good. A little $ for some new vinyl and bits plus some elbow grease and you would have a killer boat. Trailer not included. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 sixty five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 @LoopSki I will keep this in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 @liquid d I might give this a go too, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 76SS Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 MC used wood stringers until 82, I'd pass on a pre 83 MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Killer Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 Malibu response also great boats, no wood and easy to work on 350 powerplants. 95-97 can be had pretty cheap usually. 98+ has a better wake. the Sportster also great boats, inexpensive but not as great for slalom. here's one: https://redding.craigslist.org/boa/d/malibu-response-1999/6807720945.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 Can't load CL on my firewall - but is it the same as this link? http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=49169 In which case the price seems to be coming down and the guy seems to be willing to help with getting it to the buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted February 28, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2019 I think I have seen that Malibu in redding for sale for well over a year if I recall. According to my wife I occasionally browse listings for stuff I have no intention of buying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 @keithh2oskier in his man cave looking for boats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 @Mateo_Vargas I don't have a mullet. Nor am I that skinny. Otherwise pretty accurate. Thanks for the laugh. great movie clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 stretch a little and never look back http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=50140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 ^^this^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller h2onhk Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 @scottyspin here are some others you may be interested in close to your price range....may be able to negotiate a little? https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/forum/classified-group-buy-section/boats-for-sale-by-owner/576975-1996-ski-nautique-196 *** This one has the LT-1 Corvette engine https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=100011 ***PS 205 just dropped his price in January https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=84287&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mick04 Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 @6balls , the above 196 ad referred to recent carb rebuild. How well did the carb TSC1’s ski? I know the GT-40 boats were fantastic. Never actually saw or talked to anybody who skied on a carby TSC1. Or could that boat have been repowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 No difference in skiing, carb will need a rebuild every 3-4 years. Need to pump the gas a couple times to start it when cold. Otherwise you won’t see a difference. I had a 97 w GT 40. Great slalom wakes at all speeds and line lengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 You see a decent amount of '97 TSC's out there with the carb'd engine, which was still the standard powerplant at the time. It's not going to ski any different than a GT-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 The SNOB and the 205 are both great boats but as you discovered they are hard to find nearly impossible in your price range. The best options I saw on SIA for you are both in So Cal. but might be worth the trip. I 2003 MB190, EFI, PP, closed bow but huge trunk that saves floor space and skis great OR a 2002 Response LX, step-over open bow, tower, EFI, PP and a wedge if you just want to play. Good Luck, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rpc29 Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=100069 This one is a bit of a stretch but the hours and condition are superior to just about anything else out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted March 1, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2019 @Mick04 wish I could tell you. I run a 2000 with a gt40. Having said that for a long time ran a carb '87 MC 190 with no issues. EFI is nicer for sure. '97 plus Nautique hull is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted March 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2019 Stay current on the SIA listings. MANY great boats < 10K that are capable far beyond 99% of skiers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Killer Posted March 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2019 you get 50-70 extra HP with a GT40 over the carb'd 351 as well as easy starting. well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted March 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2019 Killer, I dunno, other than ability to run a steeper prop if you wanted to, my carb 97 has as much go as I'd ever need. Here's a good looking one OP. A tad more than budget. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=50140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MillerTime38 Posted March 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2019 @scottyspin I have a 2001 SN 196 that I am considering selling since we are moving to Japan shortly. GT40 engine with PP runs great but it’s in FL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ReallyGottaSki Posted March 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2019 I concur, a carbed '97 TSC1 will still have the gt40 heads, so the HP gap is only 15-20hp from the FI GT40. Personally rather fix a carb than 20+ yo marine electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mick04 Posted March 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2019 I didn’t want to get this thread too off topic. For the OP, I just wanted to highlight the referenced ad was for a carby 97 TSC1. During that era (I could only find a 98 brochure) Nautique offered the 310 HP GT-40; a 290 HP carb (GT-40 heads); and a base 260 HP carb motor. I’m not too sure the 260 HP carb motor is going to feel like the 310 HP GT-40. Which carb motor is in the boat? Dunno, ad doesn’t say. Is it still going to ski OK? I’m sure it will, but it may feel different. Just a question worth asking if you are considering that boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted March 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2019 @ReallyGottaSki mostly agree - I think the 20+ year old marine electronics are still fairly well working but I would not spend the $ replacing a MEFI I-III - I would just install a carb and distributor - luckily pretty easy to do on those boats. I wonder what PP has up their sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 Thanks for all the input, I appreciated all the help that I received. I recently found and purchased a 99 response lx this week and could not be any happier! I am not quite sure how to add photos but the boat is extremely clean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted April 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2019 @scottyspin you can add photos by attaching them through the little attach image icon when your typing a post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted April 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2019 @scottyspin great purchase. I have an 02 RLX that is still going strong and ski regularly with a friend with either a 98 or 99 that runs great as well. That boat will provide years of great skiing for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wski1831 Posted April 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2019 Now you can join Berkeley ski club or Diablo ski club and ski the Delta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyspin Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 @keithh2oskier @Chef23 @wski1831 here are some pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted April 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2019 That looks a lot like my boat without the tower. You are going to get a ton of good use out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted April 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2019 @scottyspin WOW, it has been like 20+ years since I have seen that Marina on the Delta. Some things just dont change! We used to launch out of there when I was a kid but probably havent been there since the late 90s when I was no more than 14. Still recognized it instantly. How cool. Enjoy the new boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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