Baller ozski Posted February 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 12, 2019 We all want to improve so where is the best place to spend your money to increase your buoy count? Coaching lessons - $60 - $90 a set and more often than not good value and you always come away with something to focus on. Even if you go backwards to move forward. Equipment - New ski - $1500 upwards - Getting a new ski is nice but it does not always mean better skiing, it does not hurt to skip a year here and there. $1500 = a lot of coaching Equipment - New boots - $300 upwards - Boots and the way they are setup can have a big impact on how you ski and safety so investing in the best setup you can afford is a no brainer. Equipment - Denali CG Fin - $150 - Possibly the best investment to performance gain in dollar terms going around right now for shortline skiers. Equipment - New Boat - $100,000 ish - Nothing to see here sorry Physical Conditioning - $0 - very little - For some skiers getting in shape and dropping some weight will deliver a significant gain at a low cost. Do it. Private Lake - Good training conditions help a lot, a private lake is a sound investment and a must have. :) Beer - It helps you forget the money you wasted so whilst not actually a performance gain it can help reset your brain after a bad day at the lake and some of us need that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Liposuction. Priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 A spotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted February 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 13, 2019 I find scotch works better/faster than beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Once you have access and a well setup ski it's coaching and water time. Ski and get good instruction as often as possible. My current boat is 17yo and not holding me back. New boats are nicer, sure, but priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Coaching only works if you get the right coach AND have the focus and discipline to reinforce it before you get distracted by the next shiny object on BOS, your ski crew, or wherever else. One second you’re focusing on the gate from your coaching session and then somebody posts about stack or counter rotation and you wonder why you lost another season of progress come fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Between a gym membership and potentially a trainer getting in shape isn't free. It could still be one of your best investments though. Not as easy or as much fun as buying a ski though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Listening to or reading the posts of skiers at or above your level. They may say stuff in different ways...and sooner or later something sticks to the wall and a light bulb goes off. After that it's water time...and that's fun. This forum is free, and I've found more than a ton of good theory on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 13, 2019 Administrators Share Posted February 13, 2019 Wise guidance, professional or not, is needed by most skiers I know. Unwise guidance, free or not, is on every dock, in every boat and easy to find in this forum*. Good advice is the best ROI possible. *makes me sad Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted February 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 buoy for every 5 lbs of excess body weight. Still trying to figure out the buoys vs age formula. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 13, 2019 Administrators Share Posted February 13, 2019 @Bruce_Butterfield lighter and leaner is definitely better but that one buoy for every 5 lb rule is something somebody just made up. I mean I guess it's a good aspirational message but it's about as accurate as a horoscope. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted February 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 13, 2019 @ozski: Not a significant item, but a reasonably fresh rope feels much better than one that is stiff and perhaps a more comfortable handle can help. On the boat side, optimizing wake performance via proper weight balance and leaving excess stuff on the dock can help. If an older boat, you can do some mods to improve the wake or even go the ZO update route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Good coaching and more video. I have everything else except the fin. Maybe beers after being horribly humbled by the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted February 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 13, 2019 @horton just because I made something up doesn't mean its wrong. At least within +/-4 lbs. Geez. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapullin Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I feel like this post started as a humorous take on performance improvement, and gradually became a bit more literal and serious than the poster intended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Extra buoys is the only reason I'm loosing weight. Down 15 lbs so far.....counting on those 3 buoys.....ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 I lost 30 pounds a few years ago and didn't pick up 6 buoys. I picked up maybe 3 on average. I did feel much better skiing and in general though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 I found the virtual video training with Terry Winter @twhisper to be a tremendous value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Ski tuning, as many as possible ski pulls and lessons and of course beer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Fitness Discipline Good driving Fin knowledge MasterLine rope < 60 sets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Skiing with better skiers than you is huge as well. It helps get some good feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller powbmps Posted February 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2019 Where can you get the Denali CG fin for $150? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted February 14, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted February 14, 2019 Ok my mistake price is $199 on the fin. https://www.denaliskis.com/online-store/ Still worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted February 14, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 14, 2019 5lbs/bout? Crap. I could lose half my weight and I'd still suck. Looks like I'm going to need some coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Adjustable submersible course by remote +12 bouys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 19, 2019 Administrators Share Posted February 19, 2019 @E_T Funny but no Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted February 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 19, 2019 Video continues to be both a good learning tool, and reason to drink. Should have done this more a lot sooner since I usually only ski with one other. Lately, even when I feel like my skiing was kinda good, video shows a lot of garbage going on. And, since I'm using a pylon mount, my slack on 2 and 4 is horribly evident. No camera shake 1,3 and 5. But, I bang it bad on 2,4. And, I'm RFF. So, during this cool season, I'm working on tight line for onside turns. Proof will be no camera shake on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted February 19, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 19, 2019 Free skiing, learn how your ski works, learn good body position, learn how to let your ski turn, learn good balance, Lucky Lowe Style, he consistently produces good skiers by just drilling them on open water before they get any where near the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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