Baller PatM Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 +1 on Dave Spencer. Went to Dave's school for many years and he was a pleasure to watch ski. I drove for him towards the end of his ski school years. Easy to drive for-rhythm and light on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller John Brooks Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 @Horton I think a great episode would be interviewing April and Chuck Forrest in the same show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bkreis Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 @Horton sasha descuns..and a really nice kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 +1 Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 Of course a bit of Euro bias, but I have never seen the name of Brando Caruso around here. Dude was top seed at Open Worlds after prelims, consistent threat at pro events, 2018 average of 4@41, several medals at youth worlds and euros. IMHO, the next person to run 41 off Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 I don't know if underrated is the right word (and in the early days it was more of an overall story than slalom-specific), but Mike Morgan seems to have spent decades just under the radar. And made the gutsy decision to keep skiing @ 36 long after the rules said he could move down to 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lhoover Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 You are mucho correct, andjules, concerning Mike Morgan. Dr. Morgan held the slalom record for years in Men3. Oh, by the way, he also held the jump record in Men3. Oh, and by the way, he also held the trick record in Men3. Mind you, this is a medical doctor in a professional career, raising a family, who just happens to own the record scores, simultaneously, in all 3 events. Let's talk about conversation in the GOAT realm, in addition to the underrated category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 @Luzz looking back at the rankings lists, there were several really good Italians who are not well known in the US: Matteo Ianni Fabio Ianni Fabrizio Ciaponni I think if Matteo hadn’t gotten hurt he’d still be right near the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 Fonzie, bruce lee and chuck norris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Booze Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 @block - I think that was Mike Ise? I think he was predominantly 34mph? I always though of him a cross between Jeff Rogers and Chuck Forrest. I think Mike Morgan gets a nod. He's been very good for a looong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller drew Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 Matteo Ianni made it look soooo good... He would be in the mix for the top, but for the nagging back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller adkh2oskier Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 @ Pat M & @ Bruce_Butterfield +3 for Dave Spencer. only coaching at a ski school I ever got, Dave was and excellent coach and a great 3 event skier. He held the records for M1 Slalom, Trick and Jump for NY state for many years. For reasons unknown by me, Dave pretty much gave up tournament skiing in his late 20s but ran the ski school for many years afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 Not so many Swedes to add. Maybe Mikael Kellander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted February 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2019 Daniel Efverström If I remeber correct -3 at 41 off (maybe just training) -Jump close to 213 feet -6000 p trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 There are several good options listed above and I'll give a nod to @TFIN. Move him 5-10 years younger or older and he'd be an every weekend contender. As it is his move to 34mph has been pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller alex38 Posted February 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2019 Sacha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted February 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2019 So many great champions who were experts in 3+ events like show, foot, race and adaptive skiers. ++ for David Spencer - 1977 Mens 1 National Overall Champ. Along with his father Jud who was also a long time champion and record holder, the Spencers brought the first true man made tournament site to the Northeast and were both great coaches and ambassadors of the sport for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted February 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2019 Wim Decree and Sacha Descuns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted February 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2019 Can tell the masses minds focus on slalom guys only...Adam Sedlmajer Can jump far, trick high and run into 41...overall WR holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Booze Posted February 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2019 @jay - "Clarification: unknown men's slalom skier. The greatest unknown 3 event skier in the world is CLEARLY Martin Kolman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted February 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2019 @Booze re-read the title "underrated SKIER in the modern era" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 You're right @jayski but read the first and second post in the thread. @Horton clarified "slalom skier". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 8, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted February 8, 2019 @jayski @Booze @klindy We are three pages in. I am just happy you guys are still actually talking about water skiing. No need to be grumpy with each other. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted February 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2019 @horton quit assuming were all grumpy, we all know it's winter and have cabin fever but c'mon don't assume the negative chief! @klindy you read what Horton says? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted February 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2019 @AdamCord Fabio was so clutch, won a couple of Euros and placed at Pro Tour stops. And yes, as @drew said, Matteo would have been some kind of Nate phenomenon. Age 18, the guy skied 3@41 over 10 times in tournament and won Princes. Not to say he's the only guy that could do it, but Matteo is the only one I have witnessed running back to back 41s in 2004. Also, I guess I didn't read the post very well. It says "modern era", but for some reason I thought current skiers :D Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted February 9, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 9, 2019 My vote is Adam Caldwell. He’s pretty obscure once you get off this forum but a truly great slalom skier at 34 and 36 mph. He’s also a potential world champion in multi-tasking. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldmanskier Posted February 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2019 I went to Jack Travers in the early 1980's and saw Eddie Detedler (not for sure how to spell) from (I think Belgium) run 38 off from the boat. First time I had seen someone run 38 off at 36 mph from the boat. I think he held the world Slalom record at one time but not for sure. oldmanskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted February 10, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 10, 2019 I second on Brantly. I pulled a young unknown swedish kid today through 39!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted February 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2019 I'm with Martin Kolman and Adam Sedlmajer. Maybe an edge to Martin as less known? Both great in all 3 events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted February 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2019 @Jody_Seal you mean Jacob? Haha, he ran off with @FWinter and Sacha for gold at Euros… Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted February 10, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 10, 2019 @Luzz that's him. Good kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted February 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2019 I also nominate @Luzz He simply rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted February 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2019 Jakob Bogne has a result of 3@41. In Europe U21 he has place 2.2.3.1 last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 10, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted February 10, 2019 amazing that I have never heard of him. Totally reinforces the point of this thread. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted February 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2019 One link. With picture. http://www.vattenskidor.org/forbund/forbundsnyheter/fantastiskejakobbogne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mcskier41 Posted February 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2019 I've had the pleasure to hang out with Martin Kolman at Pickos so my vote goes for him. He's super dedicated to the sport and being in top performance shape to compete. He's now working for Goode and putting his knowledge to good(e) use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 10, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted February 10, 2019 holy crap! https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo9dE_BgeFI/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=6ydgsk5gg5w9 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 10, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 10, 2019 Been watching him ski for years on my lake over the winter months. Great kid. He had a pretty good coach too ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted February 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 10, 2019 @Horton - agreed! Wow. Was totally owning that pass. He got to 4-ball and thought, "hey, I've got this... crap." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2019 Sorry to bust a myth. but Tom Brantley spent/spends most summers coaching and skiing with Alan Hendrichs outside of Dallas in a course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 11, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted February 11, 2019 @thager yeah maybe but it is a great myth. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2019 Fake News! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2019 Nate Smith is underwated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapullin Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I would say Terry Winter. He's at such a disadvantage given his height. If it was horse racing and he was a jockey he'd be the greatest ever. His ability to height ratio is #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rich Posted February 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2019 Leroy Burnett. 1966 national & master champion. World record holder. Developed the O’Brien fiberglass ski & the HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted February 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2019 @gapullin I used to think the height disadvantage was huge; then I realized Regina Jaquess is 5'4", which means either a) it's not that big a deal, b) Regina is way more talented than we give her credit for (and we give her a lot of credit), or c) maybe things would look different if we measured height + reach/wingspan… in reality it's probably a combo of b) & c), or perhaps all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodb Posted February 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2019 Mike Ise ran 39 @36 back in the 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mcskier41 Posted February 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted February 12, 2019 +2 on Jacob Bogne. Seen him make 39.5 here at Pickos no sweat just yesteday. He took 2nd last year to Asher in European Championships. Thought this thread was about unknowns.... he's one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiforever Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Athans George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted February 13, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted February 13, 2019 George was world champion. That a far cry from “underrated.” Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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