jenksski Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Hi Guys Looks like my Radar 2016 ARTP is starting to fall apart. I’ve noticed all the pros use a RTP not a ARTP. Just looking for advice to see what I should replace it with. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mlange Posted December 1, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2018 I used to have an HO ARTP, but went to one of HO's sized RTPs last year and can't imagine ever going back. I keep the ARTP just incase I need to ski with a rear neoprene boot when the water is below 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksski Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Good advice. Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller APB Posted December 3, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2018 Radar’s Rtp is perfect!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted December 3, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2018 I would definitely go with the regular RTP. I really like the HO RTP it has a little pocket for your heel which holds it in place. I find with the Radar RTP (I have one of those also) my back foot slides around a little more than I would like. This is an issue at my harder passes not so much through 28 off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aussiemc Posted December 3, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2018 D3 will have a contoured foot bed next on their RTP next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller condorpilot Posted December 3, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2018 I’ve been through the same issue recently (foot size 11 US medium wide) and found, Radar Fixed RTP extremely narrow. The XL/XXL was very tight and I could not get my foot in when wet. HO RTP XL fantastic fit in the loop and on the footbed but the plate did not fit my Senate 2018. Back holes were not in line . Could have filed them out but would have weakened the plate. Resolved by removing the original alloy plate from the Radar ARTP and fitting a new set of Wiley’s rubbers with clamps from a scrap toe loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller condorpilot Posted December 3, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2018 Also fitted Wiley’s pebble effect foot bed to alloy plate to keep the heel low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted December 3, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2018 @condorpilot it is interesting on my son's Vapor (the 16 green version) the HO RTP fits fine. I have a Katana that the HO didn't fit on. It would certainly be nice if there was a universal mounting pattern for all skis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller condorpilot Posted December 3, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2018 Chef23 I was very surprised to find that it didn’t fit. Couldn’t get the back screws to go in perpendicular to the ski. The “bars” between the adjustment holes on the plate were in my mind just too narrow to afford me any room to file out further and risk damage. I also have the exact same ski 16 green Vapor but didn’t even think to try compare fitting the HO RTP as like you, I assumed they would all be the same pattern from Radar .Never assume. Kind of wished I had kept it and just changed the rubber parts onto the Radar plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shansen345 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 IMO, can't beat a standard Wiley's RTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksski Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 So, finally went with a Radar RTP M/L. Can’t get it on when it’s dry, but can when wet with lubricant. Once it’s on, it’s a nice snug fit. Have been told these stretch, best to go a tad smaller apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller condorpilot Posted December 13, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 13, 2018 jenksski, If you find that it stretches out too much, you can simply re punch the holes in the wraps further towards the centre and in effect tighten it up. Much like the old style multi hole settings you used to get on rubber high wraps I have done this and allows me adjust the RTP larger for winter skiing with a sock and tighten it up again for summer with a bare foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksski Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 Good tip @condorpilot. I’ll bare that in mind. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller condorpilot Posted December 13, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 13, 2018 jenksski, use one of those multi point punches which is in effect a pair of pliers with different diameter punches on a wheel (leather punch). The clean holes cut by it prevent the holes stretching or tearing the wrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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