Baller ski6jones Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 Interested in what problems people have had changing bindings? I have been trying to change from Vapor front to a hardshell system. Finally figured out the problem was drag from a buckle on my front boot. Reconfigured the front buckle and Voila!, problem solved. A friend recently told me you date your ski, but you're married to your bindings. Very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lpskier Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 So if you are married to your bindings but you reconfigured a buckle to make it better, is that like getting your “wife” a boob job? Quote Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 @lpskier I don't know if that constitutes a boob job, maybe just a face lift! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 In trying out a new boot, I found that I couldn't ski at 30mph anymore. Drag from either a buckle or the ragged edge (it was a prototype) made 30 impossible. 32 was fine as was 34. But the ski rode too deep and the binding dragged. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jody_Seal Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 I like Boob jobs! Carbonex bindings on a MOB release. No drag setup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 Surprised by noticing front binding drag, i see that with the rear binding outside rear cuff. I was having an issue with that upper cuff buckle in the back. With my FM boot I took a belt sander to the shell and smoothed off all the contours and then removed the upper buckle and just pushed the ratchet strap into the receiver side. I do notice sonce going to the hrt that there are fewer catches/stalls so maybe there is a drag catching issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Think it would be enough to just pull a neoprene sleeve over the binding or do you think the buckles still need to be adjusted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 Drag is one of the reasons I still use D3 Leverages - no drag with them. Drag was one of the significant impediments to me switching to hardshells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 No buckles no drag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 removed lower buckle and sanded middle and upper buckle to a smaller size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 @skialex love the old 400 release they are hard to find but the best for sure! I still hunt down 404's would love to find a 400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted October 29, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 So @skialex and @Deanoski were those mods to eliminate drag from the buckles, or some other reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 @ski6jones I was pushing the plastic teeth with my thumbs since the beginning of using hardshells, had no need for the buckles so after a while I thought of getting reed of the buckles that rust over time and create drag. I have marked the tooth and I can force it to the receiver with my thumbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted October 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2018 Is this really a big deal, drag from your boots? Watching Joel Howley smoking it with a snow ski boot up front makes me wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I guess the buckle was like those little wings Raptor sells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Anyone in hardshells with a GoPro on the tip facing backwards? It would be good to see where the water breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted October 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 30, 2018 @Zman I really dont think it is a front binding issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted October 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 30, 2018 rear binding buckles probably do, front not so much it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted October 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 30, 2018 OK, maybe a lil wee bit... Seems like most of the spray hits above the ankle. That's why I have no hair there on my back leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted October 30, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted October 30, 2018 For @Zman and other doubters my average is into 38. Changing from Vapors to a hard shell I was expecting some challenges. Up until yesterday I had run 28 and ONE complete pass at 32 off, a pass I rarely miss. Changed the front boot buckle and ran all my 28s and 32s. Still need to learn the hardshell as opposed to the vapor but I think now It's possible. Before? Not so much. It was like a switch, so definitely the front buckle on the binding. It was my onside turn and the ski decelerated so hard in the turn I wound up swimming. There is no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted October 30, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted October 30, 2018 It seems others have tried to streamline their bindings by removing buckles, etc. I was about to give up on the setup, but one very simple change made everything work. I guess the point is factors other than how your ski and binding interact can color your impression of a binding/release system. As has been noted in other threads binding tech seems to lag skis in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted October 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 30, 2018 These bindings don't seem to have much drag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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