Baller_ DW Posted October 10, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 10, 2018 New intro for Aussie skiers: https://boatsales.com.au/editorial/details/malibu-boats-to-launch-all-new-aussie-only-ski-boat-115091/ Will be interesting to see how it sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted October 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2018 From the limited pictures, it looks an awful lot like an FXI reboot. Hmm, except that it does appear to be a v drive not a DD - so maybe a pre 2016 VTX reboot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2018 The writing on the wall behind Springers right shoulder in one of the pics VTX is scribbled a few times. Also the pre ‘16 VTX beam was I believe 98” so that falls at or below Aussie max width laws. It does say all new however...?? Aussies love their direct drive boats and it does say it will be a ski boat. Wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being something similar to the old 99-2004 Sunsetter/Wakestter LXi. Those boats are still in high demand today, ski very well and do pretty much anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregHind Posted October 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2018 A genuinely good slalom and surf boat would sell. I’ve never seen one yet, but there is a huge market. If it could barefoot longline, boom barefoot well as well it would be incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted October 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2018 Probably because nobody is buying the new TXi in Australia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2018 Not surprising that if what @ozski is saying is true. The only real thing the TXi has over the Response LXR or closed bow is size and electronics. I have owned both a 2013 TXi and a 2001 Response(same hull I believe as the Aussie Lxr or closed bow). The wake on the TXi is not any better. I would say from personal experience that I would rather ski behind a LXR than a TXi as the LXR wake is narrower and disturbs the ski less. The TXi is not worth the extra cost unless you absolutely need the extra room or you have to have the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hmmmmm Interesting. recently "attempted" to buy a local 2018/19 TXI closed bow, after seeing they are back in production in the US. I've always enjoyed the ride behind TXI's locally, I was not aware they are different from US hull? I cant afford to import another nautique since the USA economy is back on its feet. Was firmly told no one would buy a closed bow tournament boat here, and no plans to introduce the closed bow TXI -shame. Im not fussed on a open-bow and the extra chamois work required after skiing drying them out. Im yet to see someone up front on a TXI whilst skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think the current and prior TXi hull is the same in the US and Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted October 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2018 I was told that Aussie boats still use Indmar unless something has changed recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aussiemc Posted October 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2018 Changes are happening. There is a "field test" of a Malibu engine happening currently in Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I miss-understood the post about the LXR and TXI having the same hull, and took it as unique to AUS - sorry about that, I always thought the late model TXis had a new hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 what engine do they get in the US Txi's as standard ? is it a 6.0L GM 409 Monsoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2018 Yes. 6.0 L 409HP Crusader(division of PCM) monsoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2018 2012-2016 “Old” TXi. 2017-present, new TXi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2018 Response LXR = same running surface as Response LX (and regular Response) since 1998 until it was retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2018 Malibu Boats Australia posted a teaser photo on their Instagram. Transom looks like Response LX. Windscreen is similar to that of the new TXi. Definitely a DD. The Response LXr was first made in Australia before it came to our shores. Wonder if this one will do the same. Doubtful as I imagine it's still built using the old construction method if the top deck is a variant of a previous Response mold. Pretty sure they don't make boats in TN that way any more. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo90pReA2Hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 Did a little editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 The lxr was a pretty big failure, wasn't it? The boat every one driving 20 year old boats claimed they wanted and almost nobody bought them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 I think it was just way too expensive. I personally liked it a lot! Not enough to upgrade from my good old 2010 Response CB though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 Do the sides bulge like the new TXi or is it just the way the gel is patterned? Looks pretty good although it’s hard to really see properly yet. I think the reason these revamps sometimes fail is because once you have had a 20’6” x 95” (TXi) boat it’s hard to go back to 20’ x 90” (Response, LX, LXR). You feel like your giving up space, storage and shoulder room. Maybe this one pictured is also the smaller dimensions? Looks like maybe a closed bow Response LX, LXR hull with a top and windshield to resemble a new TXi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 16, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 16, 2018 @oldjeep and @DavidN, I priced the LXR when it was introduced (and I already had my 2009 LX with ZO). It was more expensive than I thought it should be. I also heard from those that had one that the modification to make it a walkthrough open bow might have negatively affected the wake and handling. The boat did not perform as well as the LX and these skiers had many LXs over the years. These things might have affected the success and I don’t think the offering was in the true spirit of the classic hull, low price combination that many skiers have desired. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 That picture looks a little like an LXI with the new windshield. The concept of the LXR was great if it was 50K. At 60+K which is what it was priced at it wasn't attractive vs a new or slightly used TXI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 16, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 16, 2018 @Chef23, my thinking was that the LXR or a continued production of the LX should have been able to match or beat the price of the Centurion Carbon Pro, which was in the low 40s. In January 2015, I actually was quoted a price of $52,000 on the LXR, which I thought was about $8000 to $10,000 too high. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted October 16, 2018 Author Baller_ Share Posted October 16, 2018 The LXR at a higher price point than a Carbon Pro would be a tough sell, the CP gets excellent wake / slalom reviews, the LXR tends not to get as good a review on the wake aspect. It also was simply an RLX with a walk through top deck so not viewed as an 'all new' boat which probably did not help the cause, see previous post as example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Instagram Ad says “a classic reimagined”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stejcraftben Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Seen that new “lxr” the other day when they were doing the photo shoot! Looks really good in person and from what I seen the interior has had some nice upgrades too! The lxr is a pretty big seller here in aus. Remember a txi here is 80k plus and lxr’s start at 67 so it’s good entry point for people to get into a Malibu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sethro Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I liked everything about the LXR looking at pictures. It was essentially an updated 93-97 Echelon LX. However, upon seeing one in person there was no recessed area for my feet/legs, so I was essentially sitting on the floor as the seat was even barely elevated. I'm a relatively tall guy so that was incredibly disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 LXr reboot. https://www.instagram.com/p/BpBwdl5A5sN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Nice wake as expected from that hull. Interior looks interesting. Hope the rear locker step pads aren’t rope snaggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OSUwaterskier Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Live on Website Looks like the link may not be working, but if you google Malibu Boats Australia, it is on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Looks pretty cool! Transom access while retaining trunk is nice. Dash/helm from the TXi standard, non-MO edition. Wonder if these ski racks would fit in my RLX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 17, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2018 @UWSkier, I’d also like to know if those ski racks would be available for purchase to retrofit into an LX. I like the boat. Nice upgrades. I would want to be sure the walkthrough design change from the original LXR doesn’t impact wake or handling. Hopefully, this walkthrough has addressed that. It needs to perform exactly like an original LX. I had heard the previous incarnation of the LXR did not perform identically. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 @MISkier I'm not sure about that either. I've also heard there was something about the LXR that turned people off to it. I've never driven or been behind one so I'm not sure what the issue is. I know my LX is quite sensitive to weight fore/aft. Perhaps the change to the interior architecture and switch away from Indmar power somehow affected the wake and performance. I don't imagine this boat is any different than the LXR. It looks mechanically and physically identical. Pretty amazing that this exact hull and deck configuration (minus walk-through) has lived since 1999. Going on 20 years. Wonder if they're the original hull molds... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stejcraftben Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I own an lxr and can’t fault anything about it. I’ve also skied behind a couple lx’s and can’t tell the difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I like it. Proven hull and a good looking boat. Wonder what the price point will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Looks great. I always liked my 2000 LX. It will be interesting to compare this boat to the newest Malibu. Pros/Cons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 90" beam that would work for us it would fit through the tunnel challenge we have. @Than_Bogan it looks like it is open bow only though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stejcraftben Posted October 18, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 18, 2018 It will also come in closed bow @Chef23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted October 18, 2018 Author Baller_ Share Posted October 18, 2018 I hope the stated towing weight of 3969# is either a misprint or includes the trailer and is not the actual dry weight of the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted October 18, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 18, 2018 That weight has to include the trailer. It's the LXR reborn, which was a 2500ish lb boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted October 19, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 19, 2018 https://www.boatsales.com.au/editorial/details/malibu-response-txr-australias-homegrown-ski-boat-115204/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MopedMedicks Posted October 21, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2018 Going on year 21 of that hull. Legend. I think the Ski Sanger still wins the award for longest running hull though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sethro Posted October 21, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2018 That fact is truly amazing. Essentially 26 years with only minor changes since its 1993 Echelon debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller auskier Posted October 21, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2018 The previous/current LXR to ski behind is virtually the same as the plain old response/lx. However of the few that I have driven, none have tracked as well and typically sit a little nose high in comparison. Making it a walk through open bow removed too much weight from the forward area of the boat. While im yet to see this new thing in person, it looks like even more fiberglass (weight) has been removed from the top deck and bow area. This will likely be a well selling family boat in Australia and satisfy the majority. This boat will not have anywhere near the same pull or drive-ability of a well setup txi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 21, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 21, 2018 @auskier, I think you are noticing what I also heard. Those that had an LXR (after a bunch of LXs) said it didn’t drive the same. If the lesser weight affected the tracking, then the nose high attitude may have also brought the wake up a bit. If that is the cause, then the really good news is that it all can be fixed with a couple weight bags. On the plus side, it might be harder to dunk the nose with riders up front, albeit only marginally harder. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller njriverrider Posted October 22, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2018 This boat is exactly what I would purchase and hopefully when funds become available, I can upgrade my 2000 RLX to a 2020 Malibu Response TXR, Loudon TN built! Kids are pretty expensive though, so might have to wait for the 2036 model! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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