What's with new boats

[jjackkrash]

@MS, you want ZO programers to make a "slow the boat a bit when I'm running late" setting?

[skierjp]

LOL, that’s what REC mode is for. You can have it run any time you want. Probably the best traning tool available but very few skiers use it

[Dacon62]

Weren’t tolerances built in many, many years ago to allow for hand driving variability. Now we have Zero Off that gives us repeatably consistent times. That is fair for all competitors. What are we going to do now say well that’s a big guy and he might pull the boat down more so we will allow him a 17:01-17:10 whatever. Nope, Zero Off tolerance for all competitors.

30 years ago this is what everyone only dreamed of and now we have it.

[dave2ball]

@Dacon62 yet people still complain.

[JackQ]

Dacon, with advent of all buoy timing that preceded ZeroOff by a decade your concept of making up for a “hard pull” over the entire course would not be legal nor is the way PP or Accuski operated.

[thager]

If you want a smoother ZO pull turn your head unit 45 degrees to boat path. This deadens accelerometer response and you will still get a nice pull with good times.

[BraceMaker]

@thager 45 degrees face up? Id think 45 to one side would pick up hook up on one side

[DW]

The advent of truly speed controlled (v. RPM) speed control and the ability to consistently run to a much tighter timing tolerance does beg the question on updating a tolerance window specification that is significantly wider than needed and one set for hand / previous version speed control systems. Not saying it should be changed, just throwing it out for comment. Similarly begs the question on ZO system response to maintain the tight tolerance times that it does.

 

[liquid d]

hahaha thager, that's great! ok, 50 different settings, one puck or two, fangs on the bottom out or in, and now turn the head unit 45 degrees...Our sport is pretty funny. Try explaining that shiaat to a newbie....

[thager]

My 02 with ZO sits in a cup holder. I can rotate at will. If I am getting ready for tournament I turn it forward. Times right on and crap pull. Otherwise turning 45 softens it up. Haven't skied a tournament in 2 years so DKDc. Just thought I would give the whiners something else to think about. Has been same schmidt since 2007 ad nauseum! Maybe time for you guys to find a new sport. Tiddley winks anyone?

[LeonL]

@thager what times does ZO render with the head rotated 45 degrees? Rotated which way CW or CCW?

[thager]

Same as always. CW.

[The_MS]

Then just have a single ZO setting and cut the crap with the ABC 123 bit.

 

[Chef23]

@thager that is the craziest thing I have heard. It is hard enough worrying about all the different settings then having to monkey with the ZO head unit being rotated.

[UWSkier]

This thread is hilarious

[thager]

>:) How else do you keep a skier busy all day?

[Horton]

Personally I prefer 46°

[thager]

@Horton Some people absolutely love 69. Guess it's whatever angle turns your crankshaft. On some boats it stiffens up the wake and ejects quite a bit of white foam...

[dave2ball]

I’m with thager. But here is a thought maybe it time to look at the person on the ski and not the speed control. As technology advances maybe we as skiers have to change ourselves. PP was easy to muscle being RPM based. ZO is not. I think skier JP mentioned rec mode for training. That works well to spread the tolerance and slow the boat down and work on form or new rope lengths.

[The_MS]

I agree. Get rid of plus setting. Get rid of all the buttons and let’s just have ZO. Now we are level

[LeonL]

I just have to ask. Is this head rotation relative to an in dash mounted head (ala 196) or side mounted (200)

[Jody_Seal]

@MS might as well go back to hand driving!

One setting then we are at mercy of the one skier that was used to set the parameters for the "one" !

 

I have alway's said that flat speed based system was not a good choice for our sport. having a RPM based system with a Speed overlay for the masses is a much better approach but the analites of the sport want it speed based and we lost probably 1/2 to 2/3 of our membership since.

It can be done with out anything more then mapping a course like we do now with driver interface.

 

shoot! I seen a 16.99 this weekend with zo!

[The_MS]

@Jody_Seal I don’t understand all the negative comments about wanting to get a 16.98 when I am running a battle early in the pass. You sure explain it better then me.

[Horton]

Anyone who still thinks this is a serious thread

http://media.tumblr.com/fe497dd337d9af8479bb6398b9565d16/tumblr_inline_mg6n5ltl6X1rxe4lt.gif

 

[thager]

Run away freight train!!!!!!!

[vtmecheng]

This train isn't out of control, it derailed a few pages ago.

[Mateo_Vargas]

I wonder what letter this guy uses?

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoG4FoNg7Kl/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1sva7gxz5tpgq

[Drago]

Isn’t that cool!? They get big angz (my son would say)

[ozski]

He was clearly hiding everything from the "boat" behind his arse and doing a dam fine job of it.

[LoopSki]

Since my screen is loose anyhow , I'm gonna try tilting it today !

[UWSkier]

I'm gonna start selling ZO head-unit wedges. Any takers?

[thager]

I said nothing about tilt!

[igkya]

We found that turning the puck upside down gave a softer pull and still kept good times.

[JackQ]

I think you all are over thinking this and have your heads rotated 45 degrees off. Maybe, be more fruitful to think less about real or perceived issues with speed control and more about how to improve your skiing.