Baller markn Posted September 20, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2018 Never really gave much thought to the 2016 conversion of ZO to one puck vs. two. My old 196 has the Rev R dual puck system and I regularly ski at Swiss behind a 2017 single puck version R. Always thought the 2017 felt "firmer" but assumed it was due to the 6.2 liter engine vs. my 5.7 liter. However, now that the new Rev S is out and only available on single puck systems, figured perhaps the pull feel may be something more than just 6.2 liter vs. 5.7 liter engines. Had the ZO head flashed and the new single puck installed. (if anyone wants/ needs a 1 year old puck from the 2 puck system..$50.00 including shipping). Took the boat out on my course with my driver to minimize variables. I have run A2+ most of the summer, but then settled back to C2. (have tried B2 several times and just hated it, but was told with the single puck, drop a letter from the dual puck.) Here are my observations: 1. Put unit in practice mode to see number of satellites acquired. Old dual puck: 7-9 Single puck: 20 + Assume this may be part of the reason for difference in feel. 2. Ran C2: 32, 32 Then dropped to B2: 32, 32 3. Ran C2: 35, 35 Then dropped to B2: 35,35 4. Ran C2: 38 Then dropped to B2 : 38 Based on all the above, the single puck pull does feel different from my old dual puck system on my boat. ( Did not try + because I was told there is no revision "S" for my old 196.) If I were to describe the pull difference it would be everything is more "compressed" that is to say all responses to skier input occur in a shorter period of time. The C setting is more aggressive than B as expected, but to me the differences between B and C are far less dramatic in the single puck system than the dual puck system. The single puck B2 felt more like the old 2 puck C2, but again, the single puck C2 was not dramatically harsh or intense. On C2 single puck, I did not feel as free from the boat as with C2 dual puck, but one could easily get used to it. Realize no matter what is done an older 196 is not going to feel exactly like a 200, but I will say going single puck gets it closer. Think I may settle in on B2, but will ski a few more sets behind my boat, then head over to Swiss for another comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted September 20, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2018 Are you sure you cant get rev S. I have a 2009 196 I just upgraded. The new plus is awesome. Of course I am no where near your level but folks I ski with at that level love plus also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted September 21, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted September 21, 2018 Disland, thanks for the clarification on availability of Version S for the 196. Plan on getting the head reflashed with the updated S version now that I know it is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 21, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2018 What are the costs to switch to single puck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted September 21, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted September 21, 2018 Rascals want $55.00 for the software update! for a conversion kit it is $450.00 from Zero Off GPS. you get the receiver, a wire harness and a MOT file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted September 21, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted September 21, 2018 The complete installation, parts and reflash was $600. Assumed some travel time and labor....seemed more than fair to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 21, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2018 I was thinking about a friends 16 Prostar. If you bit for a new boat a couple of years ago it kind of stinks to need to spend $450 to upgrade ZO to match what is being used in tournaments now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 21, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2018 @markn... Where or who installed your single puck system and who are you using for REV S reflashing. I was going to check with Orlando Nautique tomorrow at their owners Anniversary Party...Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller markn Posted September 21, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted September 21, 2018 Ed, Skip Dunlap did the complete install and flash. He is in the process of getting Rev S and will flash next time he is in the Clermont area. As you know, Skip has been in the business a LONG time. Entire process, including new single puck install, harness and flash was less than 45 minutes. Have fun at the Nautique party. Not able to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 21, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2018 @markin ... I was down at Skip's place about 3 months a go to get a new prop. He was doing a single puck install at the time. Did you take your boat to him or did he come to Clermont? I need to check if he could come to Orlando to do one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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