Will Nautique still make the 200?

[skinut]

There was talk earlier in the season that Nautique would still make the 200, has that been confirmed or was it just speculation?

[thager]

Please bring back the 196!!!

[The_MS]

They should but they won’t.

[Horton]

The rumor I keep hearing is it they are going to manufacture it for export only and see how it goes.

[jayski]

Maybe they will export it to Canada and then I can bring them back to the US to sell :D

[mattm]

With the exchange rate maybe an affordable comp boat is in our future?

[unksskis]

It should become the Ski Supreme.

[Stevie Boy]

Since the introduction of another 25% import duty on boats from the USA, I have over heard somebody dicussing whether it would be a lucrative option to manufacture a boat for the european market in europe.

The people discussing this have a good track record and produced good quality boats some years back, they made good money then and see no reason why they cannot make good money now.

I am not at liberty to name their previous product but I do believe it was a great success in the USA.

If they stop production of the 200, somebody in Europe will take on the challenge to produce something I am sure.

[oldjeep]

@Stevie Boy - I don't think I'd be making any business plans based on the tariffs staying in place long term.

[Stevie Boy]

@oldjeep still a good opportunity for a budding entrepreneur who has people with the required knowledge and know how to support them.

[LeonL]

Rumors about Bryant Boats (owned by CC) making the 200 and renaming it.

[Ed_Johnson]

This is kind of funny. When the 200 came out, all these same rumors existed about the 196. I had an 09 196, but my 2011 200 409, blew it away. Still think the 196 was great, but truly Love my 200. Even saying that, I would go with a 2019 in a heart beat. I love innovation and thank God Correct Craft keeps developing it.

 

[bigskieridaho]

They should, the new one sucks to ski behind. The 196 was by far a better skiing boat tho.

[Horton]

@LeonL I have ZERO inside info but I will bet you a case of beer that rumor is false.

[ozski]

As an overall package the jump from the 196 to the 200 to the 2019 are about the same in terms of how far each has advanced over the previous. I love my 196 but its not on the same planet as the 2019. I can't see the logic behind producing the 200 after they have invested so much into R+D on the new toy, they need to get a return now so why bother with the old design? It makes even less sense to rebrand it, they will sell as many 2019's as they can make this year I bet. And if they were going to rebrand it then it would be the new Carbon Pro perhaps?? but that got killed.

[Killer]

The fact there is no open bow model is a hole in the lineup. Most of the 200s I see are open bow.

[swc5150]

Who knows, maybe they killed the OB Carbon Pro concept to just utilize the 200 molds and rebadge it? I could see the 200 hull (OB) fitting in nicely along side the new SN. I think too many buyers expect an OB tournament hull these days, and CC would be kind crazy not to offer one somehow.

[Ilivetoski]

I think a lot of people would purchase the rebaged 200 over the much more expensive Ski Nautique, so I’m not sure how smart of a move that would be

[swc5150]

Just my opinion, but I don't really see the new SN cannibalizing open bow 200 sales.

 

@Horton Do you disagree with my question about the CP thing or an OB 200 hull fitting in with the new SN? I could easily agree with you that a rebadged 200 hull would be highly unlikely. I do think that CC should continue an OB tournament hull though.

[Horton]

@swc5150 I disagree with the premise that the demise of Carbon Pro had anything to do with what goes on at Nautique. That conspiracy theory has been floating around for a while and I don't know anybody who's in the know that thinks it's credible.

[swc5150]

I completely agree. The theory kind of makes sense, but is certainly not based on any sort of reality or knowledge.

[UWSkier]

Malibu introduced the Response LXi in 2003 but kept the OG Response and Response LX around until 2016 mostly with just incremental updates but with the same basic architecture from 1999. You could still order a closed-bow Response in 2016. They sold enough of them to keep both options available for that many years. There's definitely precedent.

[skinut]

@bigskieridaho I left you a pm.

[shansen345]

@UWSkier and MC made the SportStar for a few years! With that being said, though, I doubt CC will continue to make the 200.

[Chef23]

I think you can still order a Malibu LXR which is the old LX with a walk through bow instead of step over. Not 100% sure you can still get them but for close to 15 years after the introduction of the LXI you could get the old Response hull.

[escmanaze]

Man, I wish. As a lover of open bows, I would hate to see Nautique enter back into an era where they don't have an open bow to offer the dedicated slalom crowd.

[UWSkier]

Wonder if they'll ever make an OB variant. Seems like CC is saddling their promo crew with boats that will be extremely difficult to sell. Ridiculously expensive and closed bow isn't going to entice the family guy on public water demographic that helps keep this market (barely) afloat.

[escmanaze]

Except that as it is now apparently, they aren't saddling the promo crew with it, it will end up being the dealers saddled with trying to get rid of them. You are right though that it is certainly not a boat that will appeal to the "family guy on public water" but neither was the 196 and CC didn't seem to have a hard time finding enough slalom focused guys to sell those to. That price though. I guess we will see. I certainly would love to see them offer an open bow option in a year or two. We will see if that happens.

[ntx]

@UWSkier cc is not saddling the promo crew with boats. The boats are going back to the dealers. This was done by cc several years ago and only lasted a short time. We will see how it works this time around

[UWSkier]

@ntx interesting. Good on them in that case!

[Ilivetoski]

I’m sure the dealers are happy about being stuck with these boats

[LeonL]

@Horton I really don't believe that rumor either. I heard it and repeated it to stir the pot.

[Horton]

@LeonL if I wasn't in an airplane right now I would certainly give you a panda

[LLUSA]

@Horton SN200 mold is at Bryant boats, dash and the back of boat being updated, boat I hear will be called Club Nautique

[MopedMedicks]

Any update on the “Nautique Club 200?”

 

I am sure show ski teams that run new Correct Crafts each year (I.e. Janesville) would greatly prefer this route. The question would be, what percentage of CC sales is that really making up, and how much marketing / new boat sales come out of it.

 

It was interesting that a new 2019 Ski Nautique was at WI show ski state this year. Same questions above apply.

[LLUSA]

They are building the 200 in Tennessee, I have seen it. Right now they are building 2 a week and rigging them out in Orlando

[Drago]

Sweet

[Drago]

Sweet

[Kelvin]

Bryant Boats, another Correct Craft brand, has a facility there.

[swc5150]

@LLUSA My dealer heard new dash, no saddle bags, only open bow, and lots of Seadek. Is that accurate from what you've seen?

[mbabiash]

This sounds great and all but it seems like CC will be shooting itself in the foot on the new boat. Unless it won’t be tournament approved. I still like skiing and driving the 200 over the new one and I’m sure if given the option the promo guys would choose the 200.

[skimtb]

No saddlebags would be enticing for me.

[ALPJr]

Maybe a Bryant or Supreme badge?

[Horton]

@ALPJr no inside info but my guess is no

[mbabiash]

The only way it seems like it would work is if they didn’t use them as promo boats and they were considerably cheaper than Mastercraft and Malibu. On par with carbon pro pricing.

[swc5150]

I would think if it's priced on par with a "basic" Prostar (5.7, no bow lid, etc.), it would sell pretty well? I love our Prostar, but the 200 is still the best driving hull I've ever driven. If ditching the saddle bags made the wake as nice as a PS, I'd consider switching back to CC:)

[LLUSA]

@swc5150 the boat has a new dash, open bow, new back end, less the side storage, I'm sure there will be plenty of Sea Dek

[mbabiash]

Release date?

[The_MS]

Need a floor option like MC lay in mats

[ForrestGump]

This proves that they could have been selling the 196 as a "club" model all along.