Baller skiron07 Posted April 25, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2018 Double overgrip? Has anyone experimented with a double over hand grip where both palms are facing down? Just thinking about the best way to protect my elbows and biceps I've alternated left and right but... thanks - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted April 25, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted April 25, 2018 Use the overhand grip on your deep water start, switch to regular before the gate pullout, then switch back to overhand once you exit the course. It’s a little thing that can have a big effect on the amount of abuse the elbows take in slalom skiing. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted April 25, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2018 @Horton Where's the Seth Stisher video ? My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted April 25, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2018 Agree with Bruce. Also, if you're going to try and take a big slack hit, try to use both hands play down, it'll be less damaging. of course the best thing is to NOT take the BIG slack hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted April 25, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2018 Be sure to keep your arms straight when you're pulling. Whenever I start having elbow pain I double check that I'm letting my arms out in the pull and it usually get better in a couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiron07 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 Thanks guys! I'm already doing what BB suggests- I'm also taking a week off from erging and lifting to see if that helps. Kinesio tape, deep tissue massage and graston scraping have all helped but in a minor way. Also- I'm ordering a large handle to supplement my standard one. 2 weeks in Europe w/o skiing might help next month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted April 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 As a point of curiosity, what diameter handle are you using? Bit of a Goldylocks situation where to small or large diameter can both lead to a person over gripping the handle and pulling in a little rather than keeping the arms straight. If you are holding the handle down in your palms try letting it out into your fingers, it's a stronger grip with less effort and less strain on the joints so that could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiron07 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'm more of a finger tip kind of guy to start- using a ML 1.030 standard- going to a 1.1" soon; have had issues like this in the past but they've never lasted this long- must be from the erging and lifting aggrevated by the fact that I'm now 60 arg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted April 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 you know, it's possible that the combination of those factors could be playing against you just a little ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiron07 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 yeah, I know- almost the best shape of my life but aging tendons in the elbows... I might just try the double overhand for S & G's... too early in the season in CT to start counting buoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jmoski Posted April 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 I flared up golfers elbow from lifting, I got it 95% better over the winter with the theraband twist bars. In addition to the suggestions above, I am fan of the masterline clinchers gloves with the dowel & strap that transfer the load to your bone structure. Initially you have to think about opening your hand as you release while going around the ball - but it’s second nature now for me anyways. You are more “locked in” to the handle in a crash, but it’s never been an issue for me. I get at 36mph this could be more problematic, but I’ not running that fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted April 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 Try using a different diameter handle each time you ski. At age 60 you're not old at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted April 26, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted April 26, 2018 I have found with most injuries, that proper rehab/strengthening is the best solution. There is a myriad of forearm and elbow exercises, but the most effective one I’ve used is what I’ll call wrist rotations. Use a short (12”) bar with a 2-5lb weight on one end. A hammer works well too. Hold your elbow close to your side and forearm horizontal in front of you and slowly rotate the weight as far as you can in both directions. Work to fatigue. You can do this several times a day and see if you get relief over a few weeks time. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted April 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 I have been using the palm down grip since the nineties. First used it on a Tri Grip handle but when they were gone I switched to a US Gear Radius @1.060 dia. With US Gear looking to be history I am considering trying the In Tow version. I will miss those rounded corners. I was having serious elbow issues and switching grips solved that and have not looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiron07 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted April 26, 2018 I did PT religiously in March and it only inflammed things- the massage has helped as has the Rocktape and ice- maybe I'm expecting it to go away faster than realistic but I keep stretching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted April 27, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2018 Using the Radar Vice gloves helped my ski partner. Took him a while to get used to them but he is good now. Elbows no longer an issue for him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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