Baller LeonL Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 @LoopSki do 2018's exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 If they load up that ballast tank and someone breaks the world trick record at the Masters will it count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 Thanks @dnewton for the heads up. However, that kid has to be sub 100 pounds, so it's difficult to tell too much about the wake with such a tiny kid crossing them. Nevertheless, with that being all the info we have to go off of so far, it's at least good to see that the wake is small enough to not make this happen. Apples to oranges, I know, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 @LeonL For this year (2018) ski season, nautique can use the 2017 and 2018 year boats. This new model most likely wont pull many tournaments outside Orlando or the bigger events till AFTER this years nationals. Note it is a 2019 model year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 It will be at tournaments in the Houston and Austin area this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 @Kelvin is the man. Any chance we can get you up to DFW area if @Jdubs does not get a new model??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LLUSA Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 @disland if the boat is tested with ballast and approved this fall at the boat test the record will count. Unless SN asks for an earlier or separate test, which have been done in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 Weren't the Malibu Wedge and Tige's TAPS system dismissed as band-aids for poor hull design in the past? You shouldn't need "drag hardware" or metal bits in the water to change wake shape, right? Could have sworn I read that somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted April 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted April 10, 2018 @UWSkier I have to disagree with that. I don't know if we're going to look back on this new Nautique and five years and think it's a stroke of genius or not but it certainly shows some creative thinking. The wing on your Slalom ski is not there because of the ski is poorly designed..... Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 I dub it the Origami Nautique. I'm sure the looks will grow on me a bit but it's shocking ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 I think the drag devices are a great idea. Too many SN 200’s had different wakes to me. Anything to get rid of that trough is a good innovation. Not a fan of the looks really, but a nice boat nonetheless. I am sure it will grow on me like the new Malibu. Are they going to start coming out with seadek wrap for the inside of your boat like the wraps for the outside....ha ha. That thing is all seadek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 @Horton that was sarcasm directed at folks who in the past took that position when discussing things like "why shouldn't the Wedge be allowed for trick skiing?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted April 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted April 10, 2018 @UWSkier Ooook Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted April 10, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2018 For any horologists out there, if you look carefully you can catch what appears to be a Rolex GMT on the wrist of the driver in the walk-through video, nice fitting touch, ha. 9:25 on the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 @scotchipman Earlier you said that you'd been suggesting to manufacturers for 5 years that they should move the gas tank in front of the engine. Well, this isn't a new thing in the world of ski boats. If anyone remembers Rob Shirley's Infinity boats circa 2000......gas tank was in front of the engine. My understanding is that this caused them to have to move the engine back and a direct drive wouldn't work, hence the center mounted V-drive. Interesting to see that idea come back almost 20 years later. Wonder what Nautiqe did to pull of the forward gas tank without sacrificing a direct drive setup. Second thought, as a taller driver, I definitely griped about the previous generation's seat height. The top line of the windshield was always in my line of sight. Glad to see that they've dropped it back down. However, if you've been used to driving 200's, I'm sure it'll take some time getting used to a totally different site picture to find your consistent center line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 Our old '88 Ski Centurion Barefoot Warrior Comp had the gas tank in the nose. Most brutal hole shot I've ever felt with a big outboard on the transom. I did a flying deep barefoot start off a dock with my brother driving and I don't think my hair (no longer in existence) got wet. I think it's cool that Nautique went tank forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 @webbdawg99 my understanding was the Infinity had a V drive to the change the angle of the drive shaft and location of the prop. This also made it easier to move the gas tank, not the other way around. The infinity was also the first ski boat with truly easy access to the platform. Both on the new Ski Nautique. It looks like the new display is a major improvement in the one in the 200. The idea of adjustable tuning on the bottom of the boat is great. Looking forward to playing with that. I like the Wakes on the 200 and if they are better now, great! Overall, it’s interesting to See Nautique push the high end of the market. We will see how well that pays off. I am pumped to see, drive and ski the new boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 @bishop8950 I've always heard that they wanted to get the "ballast" out of the rear of the boat for improved wakes and that moving the tank resulted in the V-drive set-up. Maybe someone on here really knows. One thing is for certain, the Infinity definitely had some outside the box design on it. That decreased drive shaft angle on the V-drive also resulted in more direct thrust. That thing would come out of the hole FAST. I also heard that they had played with the idea of doing a triple rudder on that boat as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 @jhughes Maybe he needs to add "Nautique skiing" to this routine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 FUGLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 I clicked on this thread just to see what the new boat looked like. I'm amazed that people are discussing anything but the cost, and what this continuing trend is doing to an already shrinking market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mateja Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Wow, hard to believe we've now blown past the $100k mark for a new ski boat. I'm starting to feel that buying a 1 year old promo boat for $40k a few years back was one of the best decisions of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 I'm just glad the market is still healthy enough to allow companies to release new ski boats, even if they are getting more expensive. 10 years from now I'll have the opportunity to own one of these babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 So Malibu invented surfgates and a bunch of companies popped up and created aftermarket flaps/gates for improving the surf wake. Who's going to be the first to market aftermarket trough fangs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 Already thought about machining a pair for my 200. Can't wait to get a good look at them. Back in 98 we had chines that bolted onto the Pro-Star that significantly improved it's wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted April 11, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2018 @UWSkier I designed my own surf gate, so I guess I could do the same with some drag fangs?? Don’t really feel like the trough is that bad on my BU tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 Here's the Video on the Micro Tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonster17 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I have herd the price landed in Australia....It is approx 45k more than a MC! I do like the fact that they are pushing the boundaries, but they do need an OB in the line up. Big money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller fox197 Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 I hope these seat tears on the outside of the bolster are an option when your spending that kind of dough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 @fox197 those are not seat tears, that is the back of the upholstery wrap and that piece should be popped/locked back into the hard plastic side of the seat. Someone must have just pulled it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 @fox197 The dog did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pgmoore Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 At the risk of being off topic, but seriously... who lets their dog in the boat?!? :) I know @Horton is with me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 I agree blame it on the dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdriggs Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I am going to say what some of you are thinking. If I had a $100K plus boat, I wouldn't let my kids in it, let alone a dog !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 @mdriggs That's exactly why there shouldn't be 100k boats. On that line of thinking, will SDSU get a new Nautique? College kids and salt water. Racking up the hours using the boat. Not wiping it down and obsessing over making sure the rub rail doesn't touch the dock bumpers. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted April 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 12, 2018 @Mdriggs total understand your thinking. I won't let @eleeski in my new boat, more likely to leave a mess on the seats then kids or a dog. :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted April 13, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 13, 2018 Cool tech and well thought out. Would be nice if the rear blast was split so it could be used to balance the boat and with all that drag hardware (hydro-brake and TFT-trough filling tuners) fuel burn will be increased. Not a fan of Sea-Dek but a personal preference. Other than that I think they nailed everything. The looks are unique and follow the in the same theme as the rest of the Nautique line. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted April 13, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 13, 2018 Hopefully that seat is just a proto boat, and not a QC issue...ala Bu this year (boat show pics). That's raw jagged fiberglass not cut to size for the glove box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted April 13, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 13, 2018 The boats currently in the wild are pre-production-line versions. The first 2 off the production-line are scheduled to head to Texas in a week or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TEL Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 My take on the 2019 Nautique. A group of us (15 to 32 off skiers) went to demo days at Jack Traver’s on Friday. Pictures do not do this boat justice. Function is what this boat is all about - it’s a skier’s boat. This boat was specifically targeted to the short-line skier. For our 15 off skiers there was not much of a change in wakes compared to other boats currently on the market. At 22 off there was a good bump, which disturbed two of us (we both own 06 and 08 196). At 28 off it was about the same as my 08 196. I have never complained about 28 off behind my boat. Had them drop the tabs in the water and they smoothed out the wakes tremendously. Another skier was also amazed at the difference with and without the tabs down at 28 off. From what we were told they are programmed to drop down at 38 off but can be overridden at anytime. We were told that skiers running 39 off said they have never run those passes as easily. So, is it worth it? Anything that helps you run more buoys is worth every penny. So maybe in about five years I’ll be able to afford a used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 @TEL So without the tabs is the wake any better than a 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 Boat seems less and less appealing to the masses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Justin Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 So it only benefits skiers 38 off and shorter? Seems like the majority of people who can afford one don't run that deep of shortline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 I think they built ot for Nate to run 43 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRSKR Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 They are programmed to "drop down" at -38 and shorter? How does the boat know the line length? Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 @justin Tel commented with the fangs/tabs down it made a big difference in the 28 off passes they were running. Sounds like they made several functional changes. Get friendly with your nearest Nautique neighbor! Love that Maker's mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 @LoopSki and then the sport is officially over right? Or fractional inch off line lengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkerzie Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 @CCRSKR You have to enter your line length and speed for every pass. The boat takes care of the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted April 14, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 The boat is pre programmed to adjust for the best wake at the speed and line length selected. You will not have the choice of selecting the micro tuners up or down. Many hours of R&D with all levels of skiers have been spent to make sure the best wake is programmed. When I skied the boat a few months ago the wake was noticeably better then the 200. 22 through 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TEL Posted April 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2018 @skierjp We were able to drop the micro tuners any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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