Train With Terry Winter video lesson example

[Horton]

 

Learn more about training with Terry http://www.trainwithterrywinter.com/

[ALPJr]

Yeah. I'm signing up.

[6balls]

That's some good stuff.

[cragginshred]

Single biggest deal is holding the 'cut' as Terry says too long. I see it from the boat all the time. I do it as well as others at my lake. Easy to see hard to change

[DaveD]

Holy crap, if Terry could find 20 minutes of issues with her skiing he'd have to spend a whole day on mine. That or just tell me to take up knitting.

 

Great analysis Terry. You really showed how important handle control is with the side by side video.

[Jaypro]

That was great to watch! Sitting here 4 days after ACL surgery and icing my knee this is pretty motivating. Pt starts friday! Skiing by June!

[Horton]

If you can not get to see a pro coach in person this has to be the next best thing.

[Fam-man]

i Think this format is amazing! The stop motion, comparison to himself and explanation are amazing.

Incredible value.

[Patmaster]

Absolutely brilliant. Amazing how Terry seems to change edge even before he hits the wakes. Even at 28off. Something to think about! As soon as I make a video that does not want me to quit waterskiing I'm sending it. Makes me want to consider the KD Platinum as well. Terry what is the preferred format for the video?

[twhisper]

I-Phone/I-Pad works great. MP4. As long as it's clear enough that I can see the details in the body position. I have a video uploader on the site, or dropbox or anything like that works. Even texting right from your I-Phone works well.

[sunvalleylaw]

I have been enjoying my membership very much.

[Beeker]

WOW, great video. love the side by side and great attention to detail, as well as easy to see and understand explanations. @twhisper thanks, keep rippin and the good work.

[Fraser]

I have really enjoyed my video sessions with Terry. Well worth the value plus the membership to his site for Q&A and the strategic video lessons he posts helps a ton.

[mrpreuss]

 

Hey Terry,

 

Do you see this area (the transition/preturn) as one of the weakest spots in a large portion of amateur skiers?

 

Chris

[Stathis Ventouris]

Awesome video and coaching advise on how to achieve handle control

[vtmecheng]

This is a great way to learn. The side-by-side view makes seeing the description really easy to understand.

[twhisper]

@mrpreuss Yes, the edge change essentially or that process of letting the ski swing through from the cutting edge to the gliding without giving up all of the outbound direction. The body position through this process is critical.

 

[ShererSkier]

That’s my biggest problem right now. Timing wise I edge change pretty good but ride a little flat and loose my outbound direction. I have to get to the other edge quicker but I have a hard time with it for some reason.

[Horton]

Hey @twhsiper if a Baller wants a video lesson like the sample with Allison what is the cost?

[MDB1056]

Fabulous training video. One of the best I've ever seen . Terry is excellent.

[twhisper]

@Horton $75, but if they sign up to be a member of my site it's $60

[Horton]

@twhisper Next time I am not thinking about a ski and actually working on my skiing I will have to give you some cash.

 

Ballers - Don't be stupid. Send Terry some video and a few dollars.

[Jaypro]

definitely going to do this when my ACL heals up and get back on water next spring/summer

[skihart]

That's truly awesome! May be the best teaching/info I have ever seen on BOS.

 

@Horton I think that even if you go ski personally with a top notch coach this style of technique dissection would be as valuable as one on one. Its one thing to be sitting at the end of the lake and have a coach tell you what you are doing and how to fix it but seeing yourself from an outside perspective and having an expert show you exactly what the issues are, and what you need to correct them is next level.

Until I saw that video and @twhisper s interpretation, I didn't realize the potential there.

[Jordan]

I particularly like Terry's description of how the shoulders do the opposite of what the hips do. ie...Hips down, shoulders up and more level; shoulders down/hips up and how this affects the roll angle of the ski.

 

Really great stuff!

 

[mrpreuss]

@twhisper

I agree, just about EVERYTHING important happens here, get this right and the rest comes natural...

Ride the line...

I LOVE the way you have recently started this motion SOOOOOOOOOOO early and to the hips.

Looks like you start it before the wakes. Really enjoy watching you go

[chris55]

@twhisper it looks really great from here. Can we do it from Europe and then would it be possible to pay you by credit card or paypal ? The comparaison side by side + all the comment makes it really good for progress.

[twhisper]

@chris55 absolutely.

[Dacon62]

So good! Very well done.

Also good wake comparison between what I assume is the MC 197 and the new Prostar!?

[twhisper]

Yes, I think that's Horton's ProStar compared to like an '11/'12 197. We ski in the deeper lake here in Idaho and the wake is definitely noticeably better with the newer boats.

[Jaypro]

I just watched this for, I don't know, the 100th time. I am 10 weeks out from ACL reconstruction and looks like I will be on water at the end of May. I get something out of this video every time I watch it and it keeps my motivation high during my rehab! Thanks Terry! I wish you were East Coast!!

 

[Horton]

I was skiing with Allison just yesterday and we were discussing that she needs to review this lesson again so.... here it is

[twhisper]

I'm wondering if she was able to really take a step back and focus on the key point/points and begin to implement some of the changes? I think with any level of coaching it's nice to hear some things we can improve on, but really it comes down to how well we understand what it is we're trying to achieve, and then just as important, how well can the athlete stay focused on the task to make some sort of positive change. I know with skiing its' very easy to think about some new idea or technique briefly, but then we all like to go back to chasing buoys. I know for me I have to take huge steps back, decreasing boat speeds and letting the line out in length in order to make any real noticeable changes in body position. I watch these snow ski videos where they're working on drills and new techniques, and they completely remove themselves from the competition race course. They go back to super slow speed skiing and completely isolate the one thing they're trying to change without any other distractions to take their focus away from what they're trying to change. After they make the changes, then they begin to increase the speed and intensity of the exercises to reach their normal level of skiing. I think we as water skiers could take a lot away from that model.

[markchilcutt]

Great approach @twhisper ! I find slowing the boat has paid off big. So easy for me to get into chasing buoys and not progress.

[Horton]

@twhisper I have been threatening to make Allison take rides where she stays at 22 off and really focus on what you said in your lesson. Would you advocate also slowing the boat for her to work on this?

[swc5150]

@twhisper just nailed. As a former FIS ski racer, this is exactly what we did frequently. I can't count the runs I took with 1 ski, simply to get a better feel of a proper carve, or unbuckle my boots completely to demand a proper stance. Back to basics is key for me.

[T_C]

You have to really commit to making the changes necessary to improve. I spent 5 days with @twhisper at Liquid Zone in March and did drills for 5 days. It was time well spent!

[ozski]

@tc That sounds really interesting. What sort of drills and at what level are you skiing?

[T_C]

@ozski I've been stuck at 2.5 or 3 @35 for years. This past winter I told Terry I didn't want to get to the end of the year and end up with the same scores. The video coaching revealed the weak points and we decided to just go back to the basics and start over. Terry has posted most the information and videos on his web site trainingwithterrywinter.com. Someone said in another thread that the reason this sport is so hard is because everything is interrelated and it's hard to work on one aspect. Doing drills is a good way to work on them individually. I can tell you running 28 off at 26mph is humbling.

[twhisper]

@Horton Not sure if she needs to slow the boat or not. It's kind of up to the skier to know what level they need to ski at in order to fix something. The point is, the skier has to go to whatever level is needed where they can completely focus on and implement change. Maybe for her it would help to soften the boat speed. For my skiing, I'll work at stuff mostly on my opening pass. I've been skiing since January as many days as I can, and have really only shortened the rope a few times. A lot of those passes have also been at slower speeds when the conditions have been tougher or colder. If the desired change is a major one, then sometimes that will require a major step back in speed or line length.

[skispray]

I’m having problems with the Buy Now button on the trainwithterrywinter.com site. Anyone else running into issues?

[Horton]

@twhisper

[Jaypro]

I am having the same issue as @skispray. I am having issues wit the site. I sent Terry a message through his site and through ballofspray pm, but haven't heard back. Trying to buy a video analysis. @twhisper is site working?

 

[ShaunT]

@skispray @jaypro Buy now is now fixed.

[Garn]

I have a question about the cost of a video analysis. All I see on the site is how to become a member at $19 a month. But I can't see anything on the cost of the video analysis. I know that has to be more than just the $19 a month. Does anyone know what the cost is for that?

[skihart]

@Garn its $60 if you are a member and $75 if you aren't.

I have watched that video analysis about 30 times, its great.

[Garn]

Thank you @skihart

[cragginshred]

An aspect worth mentioning is @twhisper has mentioned his wife cannot do the early edge change and when she tries it result in coming in way too hot (like many of us). He can correct me but I'm pretty sure that's what he said.

 

So to think everyone will be able to 'just do it' is a little bit missing the point that others have pointed out -without the angle and resulting speed Terry gets us mortals will never be able to get the ski to edge change at the center wake.

 

Can Ballers comment on how that angle and proper is crucial to getting the early edge change.

 

Also the handle control which has been discussed at length on BOS is key too.

 

 

[twhisper]

I think most skiers can learn to ski better as long as they are willing to take the proper steps. Trying to learn to edge change right at center line is not something that's going to be learned very easily at a skier's top speed or line lengths. In order to learn something new we have to be able to take some of the speed and intensity out of the passes so that we can completely focus on what it is we're trying to improve. I learned to keep my elbows connected to my body while I was skiing "reverses" where we would set the rope on -28', start at a speed of about 26 mph, then slow the boat down with each pass and spin on the ends. That's where core strength, balance, and technique are improved. Try running six or eight passes, slowing the boat each time, and no stopping. You'll learn how to absorb the wake with your knees, how to keep the chest up tall, and how to keep the handle low and tight. That back foot skiing, tilting the head and shoulders, and dropping the chest will not get you very far at 20 mph.

[Zman]

Wow! And I have been trying to fix some of the same issues as Allison by dropping to 33.4 and 33.8 MPH.

The 26 down to 20 set sounds interesting.