Baller keithh2oskier Posted June 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 All of this talk on what boats you can and cannot keep straight got me thinking about getting video of the boat to learn from. It was a long time ago when I got my drivers rating and after stopping tournaments after college I long since lost my rating. My wife is now my primary driver and would love to get video to help coach her to being a better driver. However our site does not allow for a camera to be mounted on the shore in a path directly down the course. Basically the only place I could mount the camera would be on the boat itself. Given the limitation of the boat mounted course camera is there an ideal place to put one? Windshield with the pylon in view? Pylon directly? Back of the boat? Facing forward? I have a SN 196 if it matters. Or should I just not bother opening that can of worms of taping my wife's driving and just keep my mouth shut and live the motto you can be right or you can be happy, pick one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Justin_C Posted June 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 First sentence, second paragraph... You're brave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller B_S Posted June 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 Don't even! Maybe casually mention, for information purposes only, that she can see where she been in the course by checking the prop wash in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted June 28, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 Ha, thanks @Justin_C and @B_S. That was just the confirmation I needed to tell me I am out of my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted June 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 I skied at Berkeley Aquatic Park in the 70s. I had a completely different take on where this thread was going based on the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 If you ever go there... nah... just don't. Nevermind. She's an excellent driver. She allows you the opportunity to ski when no one else is available to drive. Damn wonderful woman. Be thankful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted June 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just pretend you never thought of the idea. Be thankful your wife will pull ya, and even better that she doesn't routinely kill ya at the ball. And a bad female driver is always WAY hotter than a good male driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ShererSkier Posted June 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2017 Ha, yeah your probably better off saying how the course seems so much easier with her driving ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 one advantage to the foamex type cylindrical boat guys is they make a loud thump when the boat hits them so a driver will learn pretty quickly on their own how to split the guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 WOW! Talk about unanimous. While I'm new here I've still not seen any topic where Aall the commests are so completely agreed. Just erase this whoole thread lie it never even happened. Yes - be grateful you have a driver that lives there with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 You guys are totally sexist. Elaine Bush is one of the best rated drivers ever. Even if she's some guy's wife. My wife is not a rated driver but can hold centerline perfectly in our boat. Women, like some men, will work to make their driving better. Don't be an ass and single her out but offer tools (like a camera that everyone uses) to make her better and she'll appreciate it. As will the men who drive you and get feedback. Now I'll screw it up, make sure she goes straight to the kitchen after driving you. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bassfooter Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 @keithh2oskier - keep in mind the big thing is that she's a safe driver. Beyond that, if you can arrange it, ride while she pulls a friend and see how she does. Or have a knowledgeable friend ride along while she pulls you, and report their observations. Sounds underhanded, but it's a way of making sure she's not learning bad habits. How's that for spin? Either way leaves you with the delicate task of pointing out shortcomings, if there are any. I am EXTREMELY lucky in that my wife not only drives, she's really good at it. @eleeski sounds like you might have been traumatized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 @bassfooter In the old days of hand driving, I was getting ready to pull a picky buddy for slalom. Lisa comes up with some crisis I needed to handle. So she hops in the driver seat. "Can you pull me?" "Sure." "I pull pretty hard." "That's OK." "They call me the Animal." "No problem, they call me the Hammer." He shut up and had a great set. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 My wife is the best driver the world has ever known... After she told me that I agreed wholeheartedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted June 29, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted June 29, 2017 Wives can turn out to be excellent drivers, but husbands are the absolute worst instructors you can find. Its even worse that trying to teach a teenager. If you can find a good driver to give her some tips and watch while she drives, do it. Otherwise shut up and ski. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 Practice is all it takes. My wife is a great driver and can hang with most of the guys at our lake. She was actually coaching me last night on driving....ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 @MS 's wife is just the best slalom driver ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 Just be blunt...tell her all the things she is doing wrong and lay out in detail how they can be fixed. While you are at it, try to help her with her off side turn and some pointers on sprucing up a couple of those bland meals. If doing this while in the boat, I suggest doing so while wearing a coast guard approved vest design to roll you over if unconscious in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MillerTime38 Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 Agree with everyone here, find someone else to ride while you ski and give her feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergadget Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 @Orlando76, your first point is right on. I agree exactly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aspski Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 @keithh2oskier why are you not allowed to put a camera at the end of the lake? Either end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller B_S Posted June 29, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 @eleeski there's nothing sexist about advising a guy not to give his wife driving lessons. It's common sense! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted June 29, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted June 29, 2017 @aspski our course is on a 3 mile slough so from one end, there is just an open ended slough. On the other end, it dog legs but the property side is private that we are not allowed to access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bbruzzese Posted June 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2017 Bulls eye boat sight was a big help for my wife...quick easy way for her to check her path occasionally during a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bongo Posted June 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2017 Ditto on the thread. Years ago when my wife and I were getting into snowmobile riding (separate sleds), I asked my uncle if he had any advice. "Yes, always ride behind someone else's wife." (Huh?!?!?, I think.) His wife overheard the end of the conversation and chimed in; "Mr Swanson (their neighbor) is so nice. When I tip my sled over he comes along and puts my sled upright, compliments me on how well I dodged the trees and asks if I'm ok. I now always go to Mr Swanson if I have any questions. Not like riding behind Ronald (her husband) who not only tells me what I did wrong, but also lets me know laundry is late and the dinner last night was overcooked." I've followed this advice for a long, long time, whether when riding snowmobiles, skiing behind her driving or learning to play a new card game. Always better if someone else gives any helpful advice there may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller hemlock Posted June 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2017 FWIW, I think one of the most important parts of driving that is underestimated is the seat position. To me, drivers need to be comfortable in a confidant position that allows them to have control of the wheel and throttle. So often the driver just jumps in and gets ready to pull the next skier. Adjust the seat, that works best for the driver. I personally, when driving like the seat close so my feet are planted and I have control of the cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller epnault Posted June 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2017 If your wife is your driver. Just keep saying you are doing great no matter what. It really is the only coaching that will work. The boat site has been really good for her in the course. The heated seats and heated blanket also help. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted June 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2017 "The heated seats and heated blanket also help." @epnault It was 122f last weekend. Deviate a bit and the heat comes on. Aversion training? But that's more subtle than the more common shock treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted June 30, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted June 30, 2017 I tell my wife pointy end goes forward!!........................ When she drives the boat!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bookm_dano Posted June 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2017 The less I say after 'Thanks, Honey' the better off we are. Always better if someone other than the spouse provides the critique and coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted June 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2017 ^^^^^^ I'm not so certain that's great advice. As soon as Johnny gives Susie simple advice Susie will then tell Hubby that Johnnys an ass and bad influence and then no more ski buddy Johnny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted July 1, 2017 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2017 I'm a firm believer in treating every driver like I would treat my wife. Anyone willing to pull me skiing is the best driver in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted July 1, 2017 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2017 I don’t like to brag but my wife has been driving me since 1975 and she is darn good at. According to Al Bishop I pay her to be with me as she is far to pretty for me too! Funny story though, I upgraded a Ski Natique boat years ago to Perfect Pass....she gave me hell for spending the money and after the first set she gave me hell for not buying it sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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