Radar Senate Lithium unboxing

[Horton]

[jpattigr]

Is this model built in Washington?

[eddie_roberts_jr]

The Senates are built at our facility in China where only our skis and wake boards are made. 4 Square One employees are there all of the time and several of us take trips throughout the year to monitor production and R & D new products. The quality is top notch! All of the Vapors and Graviton Tricks are made here at Radar Lake.

[Dacon62]

Haven't got mine wet yet...sure is a beauty to look at.

[jpattigr]

Thanks eddie, solid answer

[jpattigr]

Eddie, Radar used to list the surface area of the skis? What is the difference between a Senate 69" and a Vapour 69.5" does the 1/2 inch offset the .2 width difference at all? I ski a last gen Graphite Senate and thinking of moving to a Lithium Vapour, have always skied a 69"ish ski, 6'5", 240 lbs. Skiing 32 /34 mph and make 4 / 5's at 34 / 22 off. want to get into 28 off this year at 34. Advice?

[eddie_roberts_jr]

The 69" Senate will still have more surface area than the 69.5" Vapor. I certainly wouldn't want to talk you out of the Vapor because it sounds like you're ready for it but the '17 Senates are amazing and definitely have a larger performance window than any of our previous model years. Hard to say. Any chance to demo one or the other?

[Stickman]

John, it would be great if your review included some comments (I know you don't do comparisons) to the hugely successful 16' Vapor Lithium which this ski is based from. I'm not looking for "better" or "worse", just what it does differently. 32 or 34 mph comments greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[Horton]

@Stickman I don't have a problem doing comparisons within a family if skis. I'll do that when I ski on the ski

[jpattigr]

Thanks, I think I will try a Vapour this year!