Administrators Horton Posted March 30, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 30, 2017 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpattigr Posted March 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2017 Is this model built in Washington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted March 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2017 The Senates are built at our facility in China where only our skis and wake boards are made. 4 Square One employees are there all of the time and several of us take trips throughout the year to monitor production and R & D new products. The quality is top notch! All of the Vapors and Graviton Tricks are made here at Radar Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted March 31, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2017 Haven't got mine wet yet...sure is a beauty to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpattigr Posted March 31, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2017 Thanks eddie, solid answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpattigr Posted March 31, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2017 Eddie, Radar used to list the surface area of the skis? What is the difference between a Senate 69" and a Vapour 69.5" does the 1/2 inch offset the .2 width difference at all? I ski a last gen Graphite Senate and thinking of moving to a Lithium Vapour, have always skied a 69"ish ski, 6'5", 240 lbs. Skiing 32 /34 mph and make 4 / 5's at 34 / 22 off. want to get into 28 off this year at 34. Advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted March 31, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2017 The 69" Senate will still have more surface area than the 69.5" Vapor. I certainly wouldn't want to talk you out of the Vapor because it sounds like you're ready for it but the '17 Senates are amazing and definitely have a larger performance window than any of our previous model years. Hard to say. Any chance to demo one or the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stickman Posted March 31, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2017 John, it would be great if your review included some comments (I know you don't do comparisons) to the hugely successful 16' Vapor Lithium which this ski is based from. I'm not looking for "better" or "worse", just what it does differently. 32 or 34 mph comments greatly appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 31, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted March 31, 2017 @Stickman I don't have a problem doing comparisons within a family if skis. I'll do that when I ski on the ski Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpattigr Posted March 31, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2017 Thanks, I think I will try a Vapour this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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