Administrators Horton Posted February 16, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 16, 2017 https://www.instagram.com/p/BQlfEHyDyCD/  Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted February 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2017 Cha-ching$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fehlindra Posted February 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2017 or an ntic 6,5L diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2017 Maybe it'll work this time? I remember the MC VW diesel was a $24k upgrade (MSRP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller adkh2oskier Posted February 17, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 17, 2017 I'll bet that smells nice skiing behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 17, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted February 17, 2017 Would the Mercedes 6cyl turbo diesel be enough motor for the job? Certainly seems a proven engine for longevity..Sprinter vans, their SUVs. Lots of torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 17, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 17, 2017 Biggest plus is dependability with longevity. My Jetta diesel just turned 333k miles. I have had zero problems outside of normal maintenance. I anticipate many more trouble free miles to go. That said, not many people keep a boat for its entire life cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 Turbo diesel should be a lot more fuel efficient, it would be an interesting exercise to set one up and see how it responds. If you could use a V6 and get the same torque or more then you should save on space and weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 There is a cool restoration thread on the MasterCraft forum about a guy in Turkey who put a diesel in a 1997 ProStar goo.gl/EzhsQi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 Diesel= 1) Smelly fumes. 2) Additional cost option. 3) Heavier motor or at best no weight savings. 4) When refueling getting diesel on hands and distributing the oily substance all over everything you touch. 5) Not keeping the boat for 30 years so no payback on initial investment/cost. Â =No Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 no advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 I agree with @"Mateo Vargas" They are getting so much power out of V6's these days if they could make it work go that route. I drive a Mega Cab diesel, let's just stick to putting them in trucks. Keep diesels in the monster boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 Looking at the weight and top speed of some of these surf boats, its seems like diesel would be a great option. In a ski boat, it looks like the future is lighter, direct injection all aluminum gas engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 Smelly fumes only exist on an engine with zero emissions. Put on a catalytic converter and it is way better. Put on a DPF and it is virtually non-existent. You can run off-road diesel - no road tax (20-30 cents a gallon). Plus use a glove when fueling - easy. I do it twice a week. Â While the financial returns may not be there yet most everything else is. Many people think of the diesel of today being the same as the diesel from 1999. That couldn't be further from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 @BrennanKMN the fuel still reeks and clings to everything. Can't imagine sticking a jiggler that I used for diesel under the seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted February 18, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2017 To each their own. I agree it clings to everything, but I find the smell of gas much more repulsive than diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 19, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted February 19, 2017 To @BrennanKMN point...I have a friend that modifies current deisel engines for performance and better fuel economy and after listening to him describe deisel of old vs new (direct injection being the main diff and how that changes the physical engine parts) is significant. Which is why the modern engines do not sound, operate or even smell like the old. I've been in his modified 2012 Mercedes GL 350 Diesel...big big SUV. Power and torque is freaking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixball Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 If I did a swap I would look at the Ford Ecoboost. Big HP and tones of torque. All at 18 - 20 thousand RPM. And holds it past 5,000 RPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted February 19, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 19, 2017 Diesel has better fuel economy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted February 19, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 19, 2017 Makes a ton of sense in a big surf boat, pushing 8-9000 lbs down the lake at 8-9mph. Fuel economy, and raw pulling power just aren't the gas motors forte. Doubt you'll see it in a slalom boat until/unless they can figure out how to deal with ZO speed variations which diesel lag times likely can't keep up with today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted February 19, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 19, 2017 I have a 2017 6.7 Powerstroke, it is amazing, 940 torque and it is only turning 2000 at almost 80. It sounds like a gas engine and has virtually no smell. I'm sure someone would complain about paying the extra 25 cents a gallon over regular!!! I would think the problem with smaller diesel or gas engines with turbos would be higher rpm's and getting a smooth pull from ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted February 20, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 20, 2017 @skierjp Straight pipe yours from the turbo all the way back and get some real diesel feel:) that's how mine is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted February 20, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 20, 2017 Learned my last lesson with a 2006 Powerstroke with a programmer. I'm staying stock other then 35x12.50 tires and a leveling kit. At almost 80k I'm not taking any chances. It was AMAZING what a Programmer did for power and fuel mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 Here it is. This is from an NXT at a FL dealership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted November 16, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted November 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted December 9, 2022 Baller Share Posted December 9, 2022 I can't imagine how terrible the hole shot is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted December 15, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted December 15, 2022 @skinut Yeah, but if you want to pull 50 skiers out of the water at once it should just about perfect. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted December 15, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted December 15, 2022 actually that Styer is a pretty good out of the hole engine / trans package. I skied behind a number of them that were specific ordered for a resort in Greece. my only complaint was that I could smell diesel... yuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted December 15, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted December 15, 2022 @Wish the first few Styers we did came out of Anno shop. kinda like Area 51!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted December 16, 2022 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2022 Biodiesel and huff french fries while you ski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted December 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2022 The Diesel engines in my truck since they started using DEF has basically no smell. The smell from my supercharged 6.2 Chevy is pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelWiebe Posted December 17, 2022 Baller Share Posted December 17, 2022 Agreed. Our Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit diesel has no smell at all. Just smell the diesel when fueling up. And has great mileage. My 5.7L boat sucks a lot of gas. Is ok, but hauling less fuel to the pier is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted December 20, 2022 Baller Share Posted December 20, 2022 @Jody_Seal that smell of diesel makes me wonder if Styers got their engine technology from Volkswagon/Audi. :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted December 20, 2022 Baller Share Posted December 20, 2022 The 3.0L Duramax in my 1/2 ton is pretty sweet. I could see it in a ski boat, although I am not sure how much the 10-speed in the truck helps compared to a boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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