Baller sfriis Posted September 3, 2016 Baller Share Posted September 3, 2016 ooops 55 kmh - 34mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sfriis Posted September 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2016 7 th set on blue - best ski I ever had - really helps me - and no fin tuning yet. Damn why are we close to end-season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted September 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2016 @sfriis you owe it to yourself to try @Horton's numbers. Real ski changer. After making this change, please report back on this thread what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sfriis Posted September 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2016 @LeonL thanks, I love the ski right now - "spaciest" 35 off ever - I already moved the binding forward - which setup do you refer to ? Horton used 2 different settings - both actually very close to factory: (9 dgr wing sounds a lot - don't think I would like the ski to be slower) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GaryWilkinson Posted September 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2016 @Horton so John, yellow/blue, or Vapor lithium? Which is better at -32, -35. What say you oh goggled one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted September 8, 2016 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2016 @sfriis actually they are pretty close to factory, however I started out with numbers from Paul Crawford instead of factory numbers. What Paul gave me are 2.450, 6.950, .745. The horton 1 numbers are what I'm using now. You may not experience much change except .019 is quite a bit on depth. However I changed a good deal. Those figures may work for Paul or somebody else, not so good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ripa38 Posted November 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 1, 2016 @jdarwin and @jimbrake did either of you try a 67 yellow before settling on a 68? I am right on the edge between the two at 195 lbs. I skied on Horton's 67 yellow before he reviewed it and liked it, but have not tried a 68. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted November 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 1, 2016 I'm 210 and did not attempt to try the 67". The 68" did not feel big. I have a fellow skier who is 190-195 and tried both and settled on the 68", FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ripa38 Posted November 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 1, 2016 Thanks @jdarwin that helps. I need @Horton to put on 20 lbs and start reviewing 68 inch skis so @rico and I can test them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 1, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted November 1, 2016 No Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted November 1, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted November 1, 2016 @ripa38 I'm about 195 and rode a yellow 67, yellow 68, then a blue 68. Sizewise, I could ride the 67 just fine but the 68 felt more comfortable and was easier with more margin for mistakes. I rode the yellow 68 for a few weeks until I was comfortable with settings, then setup the blue 68 the same way. I was surprised at the difference between the 2. The blue is much smoother completing the turn and a tad more forgiving. I struggle to think that 4lbs difference in the tip flex can account for this, so my theory is that D3 mixes Parson's baking powder in with the blue paint. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ripa38 Posted November 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 1, 2016 @Bruce_Butterfield thanks for your insight that is very helpful. I like the idea of a little extra margin for error (just in case I happen to commit one on the ski). What numbers did you settle on with the 68 yellow ARC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted November 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 1, 2016 @ripa38 - nope, never tried the 67. Came off of a 67 Quest which was good in cool water, but too small in very warm water (>85 degrees). At 195 - 199 (not 200, shut up) I feel like I'm at the "tipping point" for a 67. 68 yellow ARC can rip a turn fine. It never has felt "too big". Now @Bruce_Butterfield has me thinking I should try the blue again. Damn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ripa38 Posted November 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 1, 2016 @jimbrake Thanks, are you still running the same numbers from your earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted November 2, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted November 2, 2016 @ripa38 I played around and ended up at 30.5 6.923 2.465 0.765 8 Deg However the last few sets i have been playing with deep/ short and it seems to fit my style better 30.375 6.784 2.504 0.731 9 Dec Remember this is still a D3 - you can make pretty significant changes to the setup and only get subtle changes on the water - and the changes yield consistent results Again, the long/shallow vs short/deep setup is more dependent on the skier's style than the ski. I tend more toward short/deep. @jimbrake you're welcome;) If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted November 2, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2016 @Bruce_Butterfield - like you, I'm finding deeper is better. At 2.455, I was getting tail slide almost to the wake. 2.460 resolved and the ski feels more connected behind the boat and creates more space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted November 2, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2016 @ripa38 - pretty much. Have moved around some, but am back there now. Our water cooled significantly in the past 3 weeks or so (low 60s now) and I'm not feeling the tail slide as much as I'd like. My fin is pretty shallow at around 2.445. I don't see going much shallower, so could maybe shorten and see if smaller fin area helps. Only skiing one set per week now and about to stop for the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted November 2, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2016 @jimbrake whats winter, Here in Texas its been incredible. mid 80's every day for 2 weeks and counting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted November 2, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2016 @jimbrake maybe try pushing it forward a little also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted November 2, 2016 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2016 @gmut - that's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted December 23, 2016 Baller Share Posted December 23, 2016 May I ask please @Horton @jimbrake , for a little description on what is meant by over aggressive coming out of the turn in the context of this statement? Horton: "Blue to me seems smoother exiting the buoy. I think skiers who are over aggressive might find yellow to be better." Jimbrake: "bingo. I'm the poster child (or poster old dude) for over-aggressive skiing and the yellow is WAY better for me than the blue." I, myself, really want to clean up my turn completion, and avoid reaching early, learn to be stacked a little better over the front foot, keep a lighter line, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 24, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted December 24, 2016 @sunvalleylaw The yellow can be pushed a bit more and the blue is better when you push less. Does that make sense? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted December 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted December 24, 2016 @Horton I think so. I do not have the smoothest technique coming out of the turn, and probably try to push sometimes. Certainly I can tend to reach too soon. But am striving to improve that. We shall see what, if anything, shows up in a couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted December 24, 2016 Baller Share Posted December 24, 2016 It skied both and sometimes the best commentary comes from the driver. He said I was much smoother at the connection at the end of the turn on the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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